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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 08-15-2019, 01:01 PM Thread Starter
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2019 Shock Discussion - Hagon 2810 Vs Nitro Vs YSS Vs Anything Else

I have been doing a lot of reading on the Shock Threads and I am finding a lot of conflicting information.

what are your experiences with aftermarket shocks? I am Looking for something that doesn't make me barf my liver every time I hit a pothole.

I have tried a couple of aftermarket shocks, and was thinking in buying some Hagons, but I see that they tend to be very hard ( good for control not so good for my liver barfing situation)

would like to know the community input, as most of the shock threads have died off over the years.

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I've come to the conclusion that rear shocks are a very individual thing indeed.

There are so many variables - rider's weight, rider's height, riding position, riding style, solo, not solo, luggage, no luggage, speed, front forks, condition of roads, tyres, extra weight of bike, reduced weight of bike, increased shock height, reduced shock height and most importantly the sales crap told by the seller of your chosen choice etc. etc...........

I could tell you one thing and somebody else will say the opposite and we both may well be right...........

I'm on my 5th pair for this bike so what do I know?
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I'm on my 5th pair for this bike so what do I know?

Heheheh
That's exactly what I don't want... but I am going on that road...

whats the best and plushiest you have found so far?

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Back in the day Koni progressive shocks were the best of all worlds. The 7610P series were the shocks to have.

Today they are Ikon shocks with a similar design offering progressively wound springs, rebound adjustable, and rebuildable. Not cheap, but VERY good.
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Well, I have no experience with the ones on your list.

But I do have a set of Progressive 412s on my Bonnie and I am quite pleased with them. I can say that, just like the Progressive (brand) front springs, they basically are both softer and stiffer, which is perfect. They are softer compared with stock on soft bumps, so routine things like road irregularities or potholes are much better. And they are firmer on low-speed things like cornering and have much better bottoming resistance. Best of both worlds. And affordable.

FWIW I am riding a '12 Bonneville SE with Thruxton-length rear shocks and matching Progressive springs up front with the stock 10wt shock oil. I weigh about 195 read to ride, and I'm very happy with something with a "sporty" feel. Being taller than average (about 6'0" with long arms and legs) I really like the taller shocks and I have a +3in taller seat, so my geometry is steeper than stock Bonnie. But my old Suzuki GS500 with Katana600 rear shock is way more plush and comfortable than the Bonnie. Something to be said for an extra 1.5" of travel and a monoshock. If I'm riding rough roads I pick the GS. But 99% of the time I rode my Bonneville and I think the Progressive 412s are just fine.

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Back in the day Koni progressive shocks were the best of all worlds. The 7610P series were the shocks to have.

Today they are Ikon shocks with a similar design offering progressively wound springs, rebound adjustable, and rebuildable. Not cheap, but VERY good.
I agree about the Koni shocks. But I disagree with the Ikon's. Your liver will still be coming up with them. So now that leaves Hagon's. I now have 2810's on my T100. Properly set up the Hagons are great, they have plenty of adjustments.

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No matter which shocks you end up getting they will perform badly if you don't get the correct spring rate for your weight and riding style. I'd rather have cheaper shocks with the correct spring rate than expensive shocks and the wrong spring rate.
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I’ve been real happy with the Progressive 444 on my T100. Only one adjustment to fiddle with. The rest happens automatically.
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Heheheh
That's exactly what I don't want... but I am going on that road...

whats the best and plushiest you have found so far?
Well this is the point I was trying to make - Me telling you what I like and which I find the best, isn't that likely to be the best for you.

As @yrunvs correctly points out the correct spring weight is IMO the number one thing to get right.

I have found (remember this is only for me, my weight and my riding style - Nobody else!) that the majority of shocks are way over sprung for these bikes, I'm including in this the recommendations the manufactures and retailers tell us even after they have been given the answers to the required questions they need to know up front to get it right.

Another problem is that you can't really try them out before you buy, once bought that's it, either live with it or sell them on eBay, losing around 40%! Also it's very easy to believe/kid yourself something is better because others say it is, especially as you've just dropped a large coin into your shinny new shocks and want to believe you've made the right choice.
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I would go for some 2810's because I thing they might be just wht i need, but the ****ing things are hideous....
So I think I will Have to go for some Hagon Nitros or some Yss.

Not an easy call that's for sure

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