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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-08-2019, 10:08 AM Thread Starter
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Cibie Headlight

Hey There
I haven't visited the forum for I bet 3 years!
Without going into any details I've been kind of out of it.
Still have my awesome 2013 T100 though and some mods I purchased a few years ago and now that I'm riding again looking to put them to use.
One is the Cibie headlamp I bought as well as a Wiring harness with 2 relays.
Looking to confirm that the harness and relays are necessary and also is this considered a good upgrade to stock.
I must have thought it was at the time but looking to get current opinions.
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Looking to confirm that the harness and relays are necessary and also is this considered a good upgrade to stock.
It depends on what you have in there. For the stock halogen bulb the relays provide a huge improvement and the Cibie lens/reflector has much better light diffusion than the stock 'diamond cut' reflector and clear plastic lens. However, since you did the mod, LED bulbs have advanced and now provide more light output than the halogen bulb without the unwieldy fan (I use a fanless Philips LED bulb with a flexible steel braid heatsink). These bulbs work well in the Cibie reflector with more light output than the stock halogen bulb at a fraction of the wattage, which makes the relay harness redundant.
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Thanks Ripper
Good info!

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I have the Cibie headlamp in mine. I have a Phillips halogen bulb. It is outstanding. The glass is vastly better than stock for helping throw a great beam.

But I am going to have to take a look at these LEDs. Give me some details.

I know the draw on the system is nothing with LEDs compared to a halogen lamp. Plus they are brighter??
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But I am going to have to take a look at these LEDs. Give me some details.

I will try.

These LED bulbs, regardless of brand, have either Philips Luxeon or Cree LED chips in them. The heatsink is very innovative, consisting of tinned copper braiding which makes it flexible, so that the bulb will fit into the most cramped of spaces. Not that the bulb itself gets hot - it doesn't - the heatsink is there to keep the actual LED chip cool by convection without resorting to a fan. I can't tell you about availability but there are sellers on eBay. These bulbs are meant for cars, so they are usually sold in pairs. Example:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/40W-PHILI...iEdHufI6NFeHuw

The air cooled twins use the H4. The bulb still has a small inline box that houses the driver circuitry but that is very small and will fit easily inside the headlamp bucket. On eBay watch out for sellers that claim a light output of around 6000 lumen, although this is true it is the total output of a pair of bulbs and can be misleading.

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I know the draw on the system is nothing with LEDs compared to a halogen lamp. Plus they are brighter??

Comparing the bulb I have in my bike to a stock 60/55w halogen bulb, the LED draws 20w per filament (20/20w). Concerning brightness, on high beam the halogen puts out around 1500 lumens. The LED, on either beam puts out around 3200 lumens.

One thing I can tell you is the beam pattern of the LED may take some getting used to. The halogen has a more defined cutoff point, whereas the LED has a slightly wider spread. Although you can see more/further with the LED especially on an unlit road at night it feels a little strange at first, not having that sharply defined spot of light that you are used to, although it is still there. I can now see my low beam reflected from the car in front in the daytime whereas the halogen showed nothing. The Cibie lens provides excellent diffusing.
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Thanks Ripper!

I have a modulator in my headlight bucket that makes the bulb appear to go on and off. I have been riding forever and this mod made me visible in a way I had never previously experienced. I first tried it on a BMW years ago. I have it on both of my bikes now.

I have to do some home work with the modulator manufacturer to see if it will work with an LED or if there is an additional something they put between the LED and the modulator.

Brighter is always better!!

Thanks for explaining.
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Thanks Ripper!

I have a modulator in my headlight bucket that makes the bulb appear to go on and off. I have been riding forever and this mod made me visible in a way I had never previously experienced. I first tried it on a BMW years ago. I have it on both of my bikes now.

I have to do some home work with the modulator manufacturer to see if it will work with an LED or if there is an additional something they put between the LED and the modulator.

Brighter is always better!!

Thanks for explaining.
Hey Pylot7, please do post the results of your research. I've been considering the change to an LED bulb and was wondering the very same thing as I have a modulator installed too.

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LED with heat sink US?

Like the looks of that Philips LED with heat sink that Ripper linked to but unfortunately they won't ship to U.S.
Anyone find something similar here?
All I find are the fan cooled versions and maybe I'll go that way.
As mentioned I already have the Cibie lamp and relay harness but if I go LED I don't need the relays per Ripper and I always like the less is more path.

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I went the eastern beever relay route and it makes an awesome difference even with a standard H4 bulb.
was easy to install

I ride a lot to work early in the morning well before sun up on dark country roads and really appreciate this upgrade

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Thanks Chutney
I just need to do it and not worry about the LED yet.
Like you I ride dark country roads and it’s good to the suicidal deer sooner rather than later

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