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Installation of TTP SafeStart

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#1 ·
The instructions are very good; however, are there any short cuts or tips you guys have come up with? I'm not sure this will be successful as I don't have a cheesy garage band to play buzzy rock in the background as I work. From every bike or car building program on TV or you tube I've seen, the sound track is crucial to any successful operation from changing oil to fabricating a superbike from tin cans and a lawnmower engine.
 
#2 · (Edited)
It's really straightforward and works great if you follow Pieman's directions. Given that JB Weld is just an epoxy-based adhesive, it cannot be overstated how important it is to get all surfaces clean, clean, clean.

TIP: order a new clutch cover gasket before taking on the work. If you don't have any garage bands in your music collection, I think you need to question your choice of marques. FWIW, putting on some Iggy will suffice (and is preferred in some cases).
 
#3 ·
the directions that come with the kit are easy to follow. If you have an older model, watch for the oil breather tube and put in a new seal while you are in there since they can leak. The new gasket will be good to have, and be patient while cleaning everything. My only regret is that I didn't put in upgraded clutch springs and now I get to go back and do it again.

Also, don't forget the wavy washer!
 
#4 ·
Beemerrich is 100% correct - Iggy is quite good enough. Would recommend staying away from progressive or psychedelic rock, though... anything might happen.

Oh yeah. And cleanliness is next to Godliness. I fitted my SafeStart at engine rebuild so the surfaces were

* M E T I C U L O U S L Y *

clean. Use a can of brake cleaner and a whole bunch of lint-free rags.
 
#5 ·
I'm going to do this also soon + Barnett green springs.

But here's some Clean Bandit music to help you hurry through the job:

After listening to this, any other music or even a Harley will sound good...............
 
#6 · (Edited)
The instructions are good. I'll add this:

It will be messy, no matter how careful you are. Equip yourself with clean rags or sturdy paper towels, cotton swabs, and a can of acetone.

Clean the area to be epoxied thoroughly with paper towels to remove all the oil, then clean thoroughly again with acetone. Don't take shortcuts or rush it. It should be pristine so that the epoxy will adhere as well as possible.

Test-fit the part to be sure that it fits and that you understand how it goes in.

After installation and before it sets, remove as much excess epoxy as you can get with your fingers or whatever works, then clean any area where it shouldn't be with acetone until all the epoxy is removed. I had to clean out the interior of the opening (where the idler shaft sits), because I'd managed to get epoxy in there. I also cleaned the face of that area where some epoxy oozed out.

Have one more look, then let it sit for 24-48 hours before installing the cover and refilling with oil.

This was the end result before I closed up. Note that the starter was out for a different reason and need not be removed to do this job.

 
#8 ·
Brake cleaner and new cover gasket in hand. I'll get on this on Monday. Got a few other projects to wrap up then away we go.
 
#10 ·
While you have it apart, it is also an opportunity to replace some of the shaft seals.
I replaced the gearbox shifter seal and also the small seal at the top of the clutch release arm.
These were easily obtained from a bearing supply shop for a couple of dollars.
Also replaced the O ring on the breather tube that exits the crankcase as the old one looked to be flattening a bit.

Have fun, it's quite an easy job.
 
#11 ·
Why

OK. Call me stupid, but why do you need to do this.
I have seen the picture on TTP, but no explanation .
Ta. :smile2:
 
#15 ·
http://www.triumphtwinpower.com/ttp-safe-start.php

If that area cracks, it's a world of hurt, very difficult to repair, although a few skilled owners have done it. Others have replaced their motors. It's infrequent, but it has been reported multiple times on this forum.

The Safe-Start reinforcer is cheap insurance against this happening, is not hard to install, but has to be installed before it breaks. It's a brilliant product for a very specific issue with these bikes.
 
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Reassembly complete. Awaiting gasket sealer cure time to refill with oil and fire up. Reassembled to the music of Hector Berlioz's "Symphony Fantastique". Finished up just as the guillotine section completed. Cleaned up the tools and stuff to the witches reverie. Classical music more appropriate than rock for putting things back together. Soothing.
 
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#18 ·
Took a 40 mile ride today (maybe the last one for a while). Must have put it all back together correctly (including the wavy washer) because there were no problems. Even though I didn't listen to buzzy rock or have grinder sparks flying everywhere, it was pretty simple to reassemble. I did where my wool flat cap while working. Maybe that's the key.
 
#19 ·
I am in the process of replacing the o-rings on my 04's breather pipe and bought the safe start at the same time. I am really worried about the pulling the idle gear pin. Is it safe and easy to do? Is there anything to worry about before i go and do this?
 
#20 · (Edited)
No, just pull it out.

Remember to disconnect your oil breather tube on the outside BEFORE trying to pull off the clutch cover, and then push it out as you pull off the cover. On reassembly, you'll have to figure out how to re-seat the clutch return spring so it works, and which way the clutch dowel goes in (rounded end toward the inside/right). And of course remember the wavy washer.

You might consider replacing the seals for the clutch lifter arm and the gear shift while you're in there, just on general principles.

PS If this is the first time the clutch cover has been removed, the worst part of the job will be carefully scraping off ALL of the gasket, which will come off in small bits. If you're lucky, as I was, most of it will be stuck on the cover, which you can take inside and work with on a table.
 
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