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post #31 of 60 (permalink) Old 05-10-2018, 12:39 PM
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I wonder if they are pre-filled on the production line?

That first push of the starter button must be the most wearing of all.
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I wonder if they are pre-filled on the production line?

That first push of the starter button must be the most wearing of all.
Probably right. I had a friend who installed a pre-luber on his car. It was a button you would hit before you started the car that activated a pump that gave that car oil pressure before you started it. I know with the car engines that I have built that we prime them before first start by taking out the distributor and running the oil pump with a drill.

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I agree completely. I want to see someone fill this filter before spinning it on.
I'm reminded of numerous vintage Ferraris which had two massive red filters inverted and staring you in the face. Those probably didn't starve the oil pump for flow however and might be considerably downstream. Might have known at one time but currently plead Halfsheimers.

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Probably right. I had a friend who installed a pre-luber on his car. It was a button you would hit before you started the car that activated a pump that gave that car oil pressure before you started it. I know with the car engines that I have built that we prime them before first start by taking out the distributor and running the oil pump with a drill.
On certain vehicles I used to sell and two which I still own, the starter must crank above 750 RPM for a few seconds before the ECU allows firing.

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On certain vehicles I used to sell and two which I still own, the starter must crank above 750 RPM for a few seconds before the ECU allows firing.
That's a very cool feature.
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One could always pull the spark plug leads and spin it over for about 20 secs. two or three times. No real engine load and the filter will be filled. Had a friend with a filter which was opening side down (like Ferraris). He did it that way every oil change. I fill mine but it's not a big deal. Not replacing the drain plug or forgetting oil: very big deal.

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That's a very cool feature.
Guess those G-DEC engineers weren't so dumb. https://goo.gl/maps/LGc5WVjwrtK2

Could only be an issue if the battery were VERY low. Some earlier vehicles had a manual override for another purpose, but you'd need long arms to press that button under the seat while turning the key!

Bonnevilles should come standard with that button so that we wouldn't need Dr. F's low voltage shortcut..., but the product liability lawyers would have a field day...

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One could always pull the spark plug leads and spin it over for about 20 secs. two or three times. No real engine load and the filter will be filled.
Unless you know for sure otherwise, would not like to try that unless the leads were grounded. Many electronic ignitions have been fried that way!

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I usually prefill. I mean, it's not like it's that hard, you got the oil and the filter right there...
I had a Vulcan 750. These bikes were notorious for having the oil light not go out because you didn't pre fill the filter. Folks found if they "burped" the filter...(loosen it up a bit and then tighten it back while the bike was running) fixed the issue if they didn't pre-fill.
Didn't make sense to me, but it worked.
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I rarely remember to actually do that...
but I've never worried about forgetting.
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