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Old 05-08-2018, 03:59 PM
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Ah, but that is incorrect, sir. That is exactly what the owner's manual says to do. Which is the only reason I do it. Have never done it with any other vehicle.

So here's another thing that's come up -- literally. After my oil and filter change, I idled the bike for 30 seconds or so. Waited a while and checked my level. Added another half-litre (half-quart, approx) or so to get it up between the markings on the case. That made it four litres, in all.

I get back from a one-hour ride, put the bike back up on its centre stand -- and now I'm significantly over the proper level. Well above the lines, but still within the sight glass.

How the heck does that happen? And is it significant enough to try to siphon out some of the excess?
You're likely a bit overfilled, but whether that's critical you air filter will tell you shortly. I 'sometimes' pre-fill the filter, but don't consider it crucial. The only time I put in 4 liters was after I'd had the clutch cover off for some days, allowing I suspect every drop to drain out. Otherwise, unscientifically, there's always some inch + a half left in the last bottle.
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Old 05-09-2018, 09:25 AM
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It is a myth that you need to put oil in the filter.

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It is a myth that you need to put oil in the filter.
From page 9.11 of the 2012 Service manual:

"Apply a smear of clean engine oil to the seal of the new filter and fill the filter with clean engine oil."

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I don’t wanna start anything, LOL, but on every vehicle I own... besides not pre filling the filter, I let drain to the last drop and then fill to the EXACT capacity on the manual. No “fill that less amount, run, check again, top off” and I’ll be damned that when checking, every single time I’m right at the edge of the top line level, to the point I don’t even bother to check after filling anymore, unless it’s a first oil change on a new to me vehicle. What is the point of filling some amount, checking, topping off? I don’t get it. The manual states the capacity.
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That's assuming you can get the assumed amount of used oil out from the engine. Do whatever works for you. I had a Dodge Dakota that I could only get out 2.5 qts out of 5 capacity. Quick lube shops were always overfilling my engine so I stopped going. They just went by the specs as well.
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I don’t wanna start anything, LOL,

Don't worry, EK, it's already started
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From page 9.11 of the 2012 Service manual:

"Apply a smear of clean engine oil to the seal of the new filter and fill the filter with clean engine oil."

"Befehl ist Befehl" (Only following orders)...
From the same people whose apparel come with label that states "Must be installed by Qualified Technician". The oil on the seal is needed...filling the filter isnt. Many motor vehicle filters are not in a position that would be even remotely possible to fill prior to install....neither my Honda or Harley could be filled even if you wanted to.

The Triumph Shop Manual is nothing more then a basic service guide. I am surprised there isnt a thread of "corrections" , missing and wrong information .

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Is this a big deal?
No, it's not, but don't make a habit of it.

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The oil on the seal is needed...filling the filter isnt. Many motor vehicle filters are not in a position that would be even remotely possible to fill prior to install....neither my Honda or Harley could be filled even if you wanted to.
I agree completely. I want to see someone fill this filter before spinning it on.

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Not every bike has the option to pre fill. My Thunderbirds sure don't as the filter mounts horizontal.

Don't worry about it, she'll fill very quickly once the engine is fired over.

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