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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-18-2014, 02:25 AM Thread Starter
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Scrambler owners... Opinions on riding off road?

I would like to hear from some Scrambler owners on how the bike handles off road? What is the most extreme condition you would feel comfortable taking your Scrambler into? Gravel road? Mud? Trails?
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yes, yes, yes. Get some good tires and there are various opinions you can read about on this forum. I have Kenda 761's on my '06 Scram and Bridgestone Trail Wings (came stock) on my 2014 Scram. You also need to get the rear brake relocator bracket to move the brake above the swing arm. There is not as much travel on the Scram as a true dual sport but I've taken mine all kinds of places I didn't want to take my Tiger XC because it felt to top heavy to me. I can flat foot the Scram. Mud is tough with any bike but at the right speed it can be a hoot.

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Its a different riding experience than on a dirt bike. You have to tackle each obstacle one at a time, similar to how you would in a Jeep.

It will surprise you though. I've had mine in mud, trails, sand and even a small moto x track. Never again with the track. Whoops and a 500lb bike are no fun.

It's mostly at home on fire roads or open desert roads and trails. Be ready for a work out and try to bring a friend.
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Better than a GS, about like a KLR ( about). A tad heavy for the maniac trail/scrambles rider but very very sweet once you learn the bike, good tyres are the key. Dual sports will give you highway capabilities and back road cornering as well.
I've even seen riders liking Shinkos which has a nice aggressive pattern.
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It's mostly at home on fire roads or open desert roads and trails. Be ready for a work out and try to bring a friend.
Sound advice and spot on.

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Its a different riding experience than on a dirt bike. You have to tackle each obstacle one at a time

It will surprise you though. I've had mine in mud, trails, sand

It's mostly at home on fire roads or open desert roads and trails. Be ready for a work out
There it is. It's totally different than any other of my previous bikes. A bit like old dual sport but a lot easier to handle.

Weight is sitting low just like street bike. Ground clearance is low and that need's to keep in mind if you haven't fabbed a good shield under engine. Short suspension travel means that you have to slow down or use your legs to lighten your weight.

I have used Conti TKC80's and those were great. Now I have Conti Trail Attacks for longer trip and new set of TKC80's waiting offroad session.

Last summer we had one day offroading. Gravel roads, loose "desert style" sand and mud. I managed to ride thru same roads than KTM690ER's and 990's did. I was as happy as they but my legs we screaming help and I was sweating as hell. KTM riders were just having fun sitting on the bench and twisting throttle... On the other hand guys with Africa Twin's and DR800's were complaining how hard it was to keep bike steady and get thru those loose sand parts. Also muddy parts were hard for them and I managed to go thru those easily.

Here is short video from that last summer offroad trip. Link to YouTube. Maybe this also gives some idea? These roads were very enjoyable with Scrambler.

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Fire roads is about all I care to do on my Scrambler. I'm a dirt bike/MX rider as well and I think I would let my butt over-rule my brain if I tried to take the Scram on anything more gnarly than a dirt road. In my opinion the Scram is just too heavy and suspension-less to tackle trails unless you care for a high-impact workout.
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My '09 has TKC80's on it and KYB remote reservoir shocks and I ride with 650, 800 and 1200GS's, Tiger 800XC's and other dirt bikes and am able to keep up with all of them. I've ridden in some mud (not deep), sand (not deep), snow, gravel, mild rocky terrain, fire roads and just about anywhere I want to explore. Is it heavy sometimes ? Yes. Is it fun all the time ? Yes. Is it cooler than all the other dirt bikes I ride with ? Absolutely !! I still need to improve the front suspension but otherwise it's all good.

+1 for Attica's suggestion re: the relocate kit for the rear caliper (about $140).
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I would like to hear from some Scrambler owners on how the bike handles off road? What is the most extreme condition you would feel comfortable taking your Scrambler into? Gravel road? Mud? Trails?


It's a street bike that you'll be taking off road. Luckily, you can expect it to handle pretty well for a street bike off road.

I can say it's a street bike because Triumph told me my warranty was nullified because I had "obviously" taken my Scrambler off road (they caught some pics on social media), and Scramblers are not meant to be "taken off road."

But, guys have been taking street bikes off road since the early days of motorcycling. It's fun, dangerous and can get expensive really quick. That's why dirt bikes were developed.

And that's the intelligent answer. Get a dirt bike if off roading is something you plan on doing for a while. Scramblers are good looking street bikes meant to ape the looks of early dual sport bikes. They are really not meant to be out in the wilderness. At best, they are street scramblers.

All that said, my Scram has gone anywhere a BMW GS1200 can go - and some places they can't. And if you keep in mind that most people who have seen "Long Way Around" or "Long Way Down" think those Beemers can go anywhere, the only thing that will really stop you while off-roading your Scram is good judgement (hint hint - smart owners don't do it!).



Unfortunately, I'm an idiot. I never let good judgement stop me. I took it off roading. ADV rider events, hit all the "hero" courses and tried all the trails the real dirt bikes rode. It was super dangerous and I recommend this to no one.

But you have to give my beat up old '06 Scram it's props. I took it to a couple of Pine Barrens runs, off road trails in Malibu, desert trails outside Phoenix, not to mention being my daily rider in NYC for years (year round) as well as being the same bike I've crossed the country on (7,000 mile road trips), four or five times - I forget exactly how many.



My guess is, your Scram will be able to handle what you throw at her. Where were you planning to ride?

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Bought a Scrambler so I could enjoy the pavement and still be able to go play in the dirt when the mood strikes. I was planning on exploring some dirt roads I saw on a ride last weekend and saw this post before heading out this morning on the ride.
Just got back from my first off pavement ride and have to say it handled better than I expected my street bike to handle on the dirt but not as good as a dirt bike like stated in the response above. Went about 15-20 miles down a forest service road and have to say not bad. Not much suspension travel but with the 270 and all the low torque it did real good. I cow poke along and never got above 3rd gear and would do it again as long as I knew the trails were easy before hand as it was a decent work out as stated by others.



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