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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 08-01-2010, 03:50 PM Thread Starter
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America light bar-what wattage?

when I I bought my 2007 America from the previous owner, he told me that he put the wrong bulb (looks like 60w) in the accessory light bar, but now unfortunately I cannot remember what bulb he said should be in there. Even though I havent turned them on, I have a suspicion that they are the cause of my dead battery.

I tried to research online and even asked at the local Triumph dealership but I cannot find a single clear answer. I've seen anywhere from 35w to 55w. Im still such a newbie I'm attaching a pic because I don't know whether this is a genuine Triumph accessory or 3rd party (or whether it really even matters)

I'm hoping someone might know what the correct wattage is on these! Thanks in advance --
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35 watts is the original bulb and you do have the Factory light bar. I have the same one. Good luck with your new ride
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Welcome! I find that the 35w bulbs are bright enough. as for your dead battery theres quite a number of things that can cause this and its usually not the lights, unless theyre left on of course. Where do you live

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i live in Virginia Beach. I've only had the bike for ... well two months now ... and through a series of misfortunate events, I've gotten about 20 minutes total riding time on it.

When I bought the bike he told me about the lighting problem and said he replaced the battery once. Apparently it happened again, the battery died on him a couple times and he had to recharge it. At this point he realized it must be the lights, so he stopped using them and had no problems.

I had always thought that if a battery dies too many times it starts to hinder its ability to hold a charge. I also heard that if he has improperly wired the lights, they could drain the battery when not in use. I doubt this is the case though, I'd bet he had the lights installed when he bought it.

I haven't completely dismissed the idea of a draw in the wiring, i just need to do some more troubleshooting. But I suspected a bad battery a couple weeks ago when, after it wouldn't start, I put it on a tender and brought to full charge. The very next day it had barely enough juice to start it up again.

Also saw online somewhere that the battery can drain through the kickstand, so I'm thinking maybe it'll help if I get a little rubber mat?

Oops, I just read elsewhere, in a few places, that this theory is a load of malarkey.

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I have a Triumph light bar kit for my 05 America. The left side bulb is out. I was able to get the trim ring and the lens out, but I can't for the life of me see how to remove and replace the bulb. Also, I have a factory service manual but found no spec or part number for the replacement bulb. Thanks for anyone out there who can help me.

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To change the bulb, remove the trim ring, and remove the light assembly taking care not to drop it. Unplug the wire from the light shell.

There is a small screw in the back of the light assembly in the centre. Remove the small screw, and then pull out the light. It is notched so that the bulb can only fit in one way. Replace the bulb and put the screw back to secure it in place.

Takes just a few minutes to change.

Napa has the H3 35 watt bulbs (made by Wagner).

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I haven't completely dismissed the idea of a draw in the wiring, i just need to do some more troubleshooting. But I suspected a bad battery a couple weeks ago when, after it wouldn't start, I put it on a tender and brought to full charge. The very next day it had barely enough juice to start it up again.
A short (“draw”, closed circuit fault) anywhere in the system would more than likely draw enough current to blow a fuse before it drained the battery so although its possible its not very likely.
If you were pulling 120 watts with the accessory lights plus 50 – 65 watts from the headlight there is a good chance that you were asking way too much of the alternator.
Each time you start the bike, it takes quite a bit of riding to put that charge back in as well, say 15 min to a half hour depending on how long you had to crank it, the quality and capacity of the battery and the RPMs at which you ride.
If you’ve only ridden the bike for 20 minutes, but started it up 10 times just to hear her run, thatll suck the life out of it pretty quickly.
Your idle speed should also be kept between 1000 – 1100 RPMs to maintain proper charging at idle.
Keep in mind also that a really cheap battery may last as little as one year with normal use, even decent batteries if improperly maintained can wind up garbage in less than two years.
If there is an alarm installed on the bike that would also be a factor because its always pulling a trickle from the battery.
I recommend a high quality battery like an Interstate, be mindful of how many times you start it compared to how long you run it and of course installing the proper wattage bulbs all around.
Its also important to understand that a battery reading 12 volts is not fully charged, a healthy battery should read at least 12.5 up to 13 volts with no load.


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Its also important to understand that a battery reading 12 volts is not fully charged, a healthy battery should read at least 12.5 up to 13 volts with no load.


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A battery with 12 volts in it is dead.

These batteries should read 12.8 volts fully charged.

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A battery with 12 volts in it is dead.

These batteries should read 12.8 volts fully charged.
I never said that 12V was "dead", and yes, you repeated exactly what I said. (12.5 to 13 = ~12.8)

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