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Old 10-10-2012, 03:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Oil Filter installation on a OIF 76' Bonneville

I know there are already quite a few posts about it. But I thought a new one to clarify a few things and to tell about my bike might be helpful for the fellow looking for quick answers.
I bought my Norton kit on Ebay for my OIF 76' Bonneville. The hose that comes with it was too big at 3/8" ID. I bought some 5/16 ID transmission oil, but even that seemed too big as the existing old hose was more like a 1/4". Anyhow, sliding the stock hose on the filter housing IN pipe and the new hose on the OUT pipe was very difficult ( since there are made for the 3/8" hose size ), even after softening the hoses in boiling water. I got 2 nice blisters to show for it now. I had to connect the hoses before securing the whole thing under the swing arm, as it is really cramped in there. I used a 3" muffler clamp to secure the filter housing around the frame. I put some clear tubing around the U-shaped bolt to protect the frame.
The filter that came with the kit has a Fram PH2839 that is not available for sale in the US. It is a European market filter only. I found the Wix 57013 which is a motorcycle filter for Ducati and Harley. It has all the right stuff ( By-pass valve @ 9lbs pressure ) and it is 1/2" shorter ( 2 1/2 height ) than the Fram, which is great for where it gets located and also easier on the oil pump. It is chromed, but you can't see it where it is. The filter is as high as I could push it up and is completely protected behind the engine : nothing sticks out !
Finished late so I started the bike this morning. Oil wasn't coming out back into the frame after 10 seconds, got worried and shut it down. Looked around to see where I might have screwed up, nothing I could see so I started again. Within 3 seconds oil started coming out and after 2 more, it was a steady flow. At idle, maybe a bit less than before without the filter, but after that it seems just as good. So it takes a few good seconds to pressurize the system and fill up the hoses ( I had prefilled the filter of course ). As some have said, it would be easier to do it without the rear wheel. I left the wheel in place but I used a table lift. With the rear wheel and the bike on the ground, it would be very very difficult to install the filter housing & hoses.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice work Frog. You can prime your oil lines so you can get oil as soon as you start it up. I use a plastic syringe for the job. Unclamp your oil lines a the rocker feed and at the return to the tank and squirt in the oil. Your motor will thank you and you won't get that 10-20 second heart stopwaiting for oil to appear.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks. Good advice. I should have thought about it, but instead imagined the " power " of the oil pump would fill up the system in a heart bit. Didn't quite worked that fast. But now, the next guy ( or girl ) will do it right and avoid that scary time slot were it seems to be dry !
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I put my filter horizontal, avoids putting sharp bends in the oil pipes. Trying to find the pics!
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Nice work Frog. You can prime your oil lines so you can get oil as soon as you start it up. I use a plastic syringe for the job. Unclamp your oil lines a the rocker feed and at the return to the tank and squirt in the oil. Your motor will thank you and you won't get that 10-20 second heart stopwaiting for oil to appear.
Just to add; I have an oil cooler as well so it helps to pop off the lines leading and returning to the cooler and prime those as well. Here's a pic.

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Old 12-01-2012, 03:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Nice job on were you fitted that filter Frogy, is that two magnets you have stuck there on the bottom of the oil tank in the frame...
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Nice job on were you fitted that filter Frogy, is that two magnets you have stuck there on the bottom of the oil tank in the frame...
Excuse my English but you have " ****ing " good eyes. Yes, I have these magnets there. Around the shop doing nothing, I put them there god knows for what. If I pulled 2 lbs of crap from these magnets, I could feel super smart....until I asked myself where the " **** " are these 2 pounds coming from.......
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I have had a good look at the pics, were the you mount the filter to , l have the same Norton kit and looking to fit under the side cover.

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Your a clever fella Terry , you have been a great help to me ..
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks for the writeup.
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