Triumphrat

skaterpope · 12-12-2009, 10:12 AM

Hi, along to my 1967 T120 I bought today a 1970 T120R. But I have a few questions concerning the VIN- and Motor numbers.

First of all, the VIN/ Frame number reads "AD38540 T120R". But to my records, I can not assign it to any of the T120R models! Any help on this I would really appreciate.

Next thing is the motor number which reads "ND-30752". But it's clearly visible, that the last two digits were overstamped. So the original number should be read "ND-30770". Check the attached photos ...

The bike was imported from the USA to Germany in 1996.

So once again, thanx for all your help ...

GrandPaulZ · 12-12-2009, 10:55 AM

Of course, the actual vintage of the engine was the overstamped "70" number.

skaterpope · 12-12-2009, 11:04 AM

But why should somebody do this???

Any idea about the frame number???

Thanx
Marc

GrandPaulZ · 12-12-2009, 05:26 PM

Most authorities will look for the frame number first. Typically, the title follows the frame.

skaterpope · 12-13-2009, 04:32 AM

But I mean, is the frame number an authorizised number for a 1970 modell???

epynt1050 · 12-13-2009, 04:51 AM

"AD" would indicate January 70 build
"ND" would indicate October 69 (for Model year 70).

Both are consistent for a 1970 Model T120R but the engine has been changed at some point.

Lake · 12-13-2009, 05:18 AM

People often overstamp numbers on stolen engines and frames by the way.

GrandPaulZ · 12-13-2009, 11:07 AM

People overstamp numbers to make a mismatched "bitsa" bike match up. Illigitimate, but not always due to theft. Sometimes you've got to buy a replacement engine if you blow yours up.

KADUTZ · 12-13-2009, 03:30 PM

skaterpope

1 Has the bike passed the TUV inspection

2 Which number is shown on your plate registration (title) ?

K