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11-18-2008, 04:50 PM
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Quiet Aftermarket Exhaust?
I realize that the answers will be subjective, but here goes.
I currently have TORs on my Scrambler. They are a bit restrictive and have become the next hurdle in getting an extra pony or two out my bike. I've listened to all the vids on the exhaust thread without gaining any knowledge. I would like a less restrictive exhaust that isn't any louder than my TORs. A little quieter would even be nice. Generally speaking, I believe that more HP means more noise, but I am forever hopeful. I have heard that the Staintunes might be a good choice. I have also heard that the Arrows (with baffle in) are fairly quiet. I do like the look of the stock pipes, so if I can just get some new slip-ons, I'd be fine.
Can anyone post up real life comparisons between the available options? If enough people post, we can put together a list of cans from quietest to loudest that might be of some use.
Thanks!
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11-18-2008, 05:49 PM
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Pokeyjoe,
I love my D&D's, at first they where WAY to loud, but I was able to quiet them down, and now they have a sweet mellow purr.
The instructions are in the Twins Documentation Library.
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11-18-2008, 06:14 PM
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I also wanted a bit more performance and sound, but not too loud. I LOVE my Touring Predator exhaust from NewBonneville. ( http://www.newbonneville.com/html/do...r_exhaust.html ). Has added benefit of being compatible with centerstand. Try it, you'll like it...
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11-18-2008, 08:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokeyjoe
I realize that the answers will be subjective, but here goes.
I currently have TORs on my Scrambler. They are a bit restrictive and have become the next hurdle in getting an extra pony or two out my bike. I've listened to all the vids on the exhaust thread without gaining any knowledge. I would like a less restrictive exhaust that isn't any louder than my TORs. A little quieter would even be nice. Generally speaking, I believe that more HP means more noise, but I am forever hopeful. I have heard that the Staintunes might be a good choice. I have also heard that the Arrows (with baffle in) are fairly quiet. I do like the look of the stock pipes, so if I can just get some new slip-ons, I'd be fine.
Can anyone post up real life comparisons between the available options? If enough people post, we can put together a list of cans from quietest to loudest that might be of some use.
Thanks!
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If you want quiet pipes, stick with the stock ones, they dont come much quieter than those. I dont think there is much more HP to be gained with louder pipes [other may disagree] 1-2 HP maybe. Unless you go for additional mods as well.
Loud pipes just sound meaner, I liiiiike
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11-19-2008, 12:07 AM
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Olderslower,
What is the volume/tone of the Tourings compared to the original Predators?
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11-19-2008, 12:16 AM
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Wassat ya saying?
If you want quiet pipes, stick with the stock pipes.
If you want a bike to do 200 mph buy one.
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11-19-2008, 11:05 AM
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Maybe Norman Hyde SS pipes
pokeyjoe - From my extensive research, I think you're right about power = volume. Also, seems most guys here agree that for carbed bikes anyway, its the associated mods (rejetting, A/I removal, etc.) that really help with the power, and that with the exception of high-end systems, the exhaust itself doesn't add much power.
However, the exception may be Norman Hyde SS pipes - http://www.newbonneville.com/html/hyde_ss_exhaust.html - I checked into these because they look sweet - very much like those on '67-'68 TR6C's. I wrote NH about them and they claim 6-8% more HP and torque over stock before mods. I was hoping they'd have a clip of how they sound, but they don't. They did say all their pipes sound like the Triumph pipes from the '60s, so probably not too loud.
Even though they're double the TORS $, I was strongly considering them until I found out there's no heat shielding available for the passenger.
Also, the regular Norman Hyde slip-ons might be an option. From what I've been able to tell, they're about the same volume as TORs and someone else here - Texascat? - ran TORs and then switched to the Hyde slip-ons. Maybe do a search and see what he thinks of sound and power.
Final thoughts - one thing I've learned is that when listening to clips, make sure you listen to how pipes you're interested in sound on a Scrambler. TORs and other pipes can sound very different on Bonnies, Thrux's, etc. than they do on a Scrambler. Also, it seems most guys here agree that clips often don't give an accurate idea of what pipes really sound like, so if at all possible, try and find a local Scrambler owner who's got pipes your interested in and see if you can give his\hers a listen.
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11-19-2008, 11:18 AM
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Quiet exhaust means less freeflowing..freeflowing = loud.
..get my point here?
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11-19-2008, 01:08 PM
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Based on what I've read and people have said, the Thunderbike slip-ons will be my choice. They don't have the "blat-blat" of the TORs and may only be a little louder, although the sound is much different. I understand that if I stay off the throttle, I can quietly drive through the neighborhood (important in the wee hours of the morning).
I was hoping someone with Staintunes could add their 2¢.
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Some people are like Slinkies. They're really good for nothing. But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
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11-19-2008, 01:12 PM
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ride fast in mornings so they dont know its you. put some good pipes on
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