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11-16-2008, 02:27 PM
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Oil Filter stuck
Hi all!!
The oilk filter on my Bonnie will not come off it just will not move!!!!!
I have the tools to do the job but grrrrr it will not move a cm....
My mate told me to put a svrewdriver throu it but is that wise???
Any help would be welcome.
Cheers all!!!!!!!!
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11-16-2008, 02:44 PM
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I use a cup type filter wrench with a ratchet, available at most auto parts stores. Should make easy work of it.
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11-16-2008, 02:58 PM
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Hi,
Gtorockz's idea is good, take your new filter to the auto parts store and obtain a socket that fits.
Yes you can drive a screwdriver or a spike through the thing but be prepared to make a mess. Also be sure you leave enough room to turn the filter once you have your spike (or whatever) driven through it.
Once on a truck I owned my socket kept slipping off the end of the filter. Finally the end of the filter was rounded off. I had no choice but to drive something through it. It was so tight the metal began tearing. Finally I tore the filter completely apart and was able to get a vise grip on the remains and finally get it to budge.
I've NEVER tightened filters more than 3/4 to 1 turn past where they begin to seat (hand tight but with a LOT of 'hand tightness') but even so, for some reason they seem to tighten up between oil changes... some vehicles more than others.
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11-16-2008, 03:14 PM
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Use the proper filter wrench to put the filter ON, just use a set of channel locks to grab a hold and get the old one OFF. Don't care about denting or scratching the old filter - just don't want to dent or scratch anything else. This way you don't have oil pouring everywhere when you puncture the old filter with a screwdriver.
That's how I do it anyway - works every time.
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11-16-2008, 03:16 PM
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like they said, a filter wrench, a big pair of channel locks, a screwdriver, or a sharpened piece of round rod should make short work of the stuck filter.
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11-16-2008, 03:17 PM
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i just changed the oil on my thruxton yesterday. same problem. i hammered a large screwdriver through the filter and used it as a lever. worked great and was actually a little fun. i'd probably do it the same way next time.
as far as the "mess" goes... with the pan underneath it really wasn't bad at all.
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11-16-2008, 04:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by propforward
Use the proper filter wrench to put the filter ON
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Uh, no. I'm a little surprised at you. Do not use a wrench to put the filter on. Put a little oil on the gasket and hand tighten only. Even then, you can get it too tight. Turn it until the gasket makes contact and then tighten half to three-quarters of a turn. No more. It will not come loose and you will probably need a wrench to get it off.
Yes, driving a screwdriver through the filter can make a mess. In my experience, if you can't get it off anyway, you will just shred the can trying to loosen it with a screwdriver through it. I've had to resort to notching the rolled over lip next to the engine with a chisel and then using the chisel to loosen the filter. If you don't use a hammer, you didn't do something right.
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11-16-2008, 04:50 PM
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If I put the filter on with my hand I'll over tighten it. I'm a big fella.
I use the cap type filter wrench to match the end of the filter, and I use a torque wrench to the correct setting so it doesn't get overtightened. I should probably have clarified that up front.
+1 on smearing oil on the O ring though. And while I'm banging on - fill the filter with oil before putting it on.
Channel locks to get the thing off, because I can't be bothered to mess around, although I have found that I can use the filter wrench to get them off becuase I don't overtighten them.
Works every time - never leaks, never falls off, never gets stuck on.
This is my method - and I'm sticking with it.
EDIT: Although - the hand tight then 3/4 turn method is very reliable, and a perfectly sound approach. Proven to give highly repeatable torque values in several applications.  :
Last edited by propforward; 11-16-2008 at 05:02 PM.
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11-16-2008, 04:59 PM
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Thanks for the link to this specialty tool. Didn't know there was such an animal. Next time at Harbor Frt, I'm getting one.
Bob
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