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07-04-2008
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#11 (permalink)
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You are making so many bad assumptions it isn't funny. My favorite?
"You didn't give the first dealer the chance to isolate the problem and repair it."
Yeah. Neat. Actually, I did take it back to that dealer. They said they couldn't look at it until August. Want to try again?
What you are suffering from is something called cogntive dissonance. I don't care to talk more to you about this. Clearly you are out to prove something -- and if that's the case, good. You win. Think anything you want; say anything you want about me... you're correct.
Now will you just go away? There are people here who are trying to help me instead of trying to enter into some kind of a p***ing contest.
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07-04-2008
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#12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Jimi_X
OK, Hold the bus,... We need some things clarified,...Did the dealer replaced "both" front and back wheels at the same time? Did they let you ride the other Thrux to test it? Did they put your wheels on the other Thrux and test ride it? This isn't that difficult to solve, especially if it shakes as bad as you described.
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There are complications to this. The dealer is over an hour's drive away, so it's not like I can just pop by every few minutes. Further, every time I've been there, it's taken them literally hours to get to me. They are very, very busy -- and that's cool. I don't have a problem with them being busy. It just adds a huge wrinkle in terms of convenience for me.
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07-04-2008
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#13 (permalink)
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Moto Grand Prix
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Skull, your post is arrogant, uncalled-for, not helpful, and mostly irrelevant.
Dangermouse is entitled to a properly functioning motorcycle, and it's up to Triumph and his dealer to make it so. How was he supposed to "check out" the bike when most dealers don't allow test rides? And what's to say he would have detected this problem on a ten-mile test ride on an unfamiliar motorcycle?
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2005 Bonneville Blue 790cc, AI removed, Staintunes RC, Unifilter, no snorkel, 120/40/Thrux needle/1 shim/3 turns, fly screen, tacho, D9 gauge panel, center stand, Ikon 7610s, Hagon fork springs, gaiters, Pirelli Sport Demons, 3 seats.
Last edited by Baltobonneville : 07-04-2008 at 03:53 PM.
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07-04-2008
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#14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Baltobonneville
Skull, your post is arrogant, uncalled-for, and mostly irrelevant.
Dangermouse is entitled to a properly functioning motorcycle, and it's up to Triumph and his dealer to make it so. How was he supposed to "check out" the bike when most dealers don't allow test rides? And what's to say he would have detected this problem on a ten-mile test ride on an unfamiliar motorcycle?
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It may be but I tell it like I see it! Fine, then let him take it up with the dealership, this is no place for him to solve it! He has neglected to tell anyone which dealership he bought it from. He has neglected to tell anyone what the dealer did not do! If it's so irrelevent then why was it necessary to come here and complain about it to everyone! He has the right to voice his displeasure with the brand then I have my right to retort!!! America what a great country!! As far as a test ride goes I rode the one I purchased for 20 miles + which is plenty of time to note this type of problem.  If he couldn't ride the bike then he should have gone to another dealership. Any dealership I've ever bought a motorcycle from has an obligation to allow you to ride the bike prior to purchase. I've had more than 60 and I've test ridded each and every one!!!
Cheers
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Last edited by Skull Crusher : 07-04-2008 at 04:02 PM.
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07-04-2008
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#15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dangermouse
You are making so many bad assumptions it isn't funny. My favorite?
"You didn't give the first dealer the chance to isolate the problem and repair it."
Yeah. Neat. Actually, I did take it back to that dealer. They said they couldn't look at it until August. Want to try again?
What you are suffering from is something called cogntive dissonance. I don't care to talk more to you about this. Clearly you are out to prove something -- and if that's the case, good. You win. Think anything you want; say anything you want about me... you're correct.
Now will you just go away? There are people here who are trying to help me instead of trying to enter into some kind of a p***ing contest.
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You already started the pissing contest way before I chimed in and now you revert to name calling. Good, then the thread should disappear without anymore input from you!!! You are the one who came here to bad mouth the bike, not me! By your own omission your not here to solve anything, your here to get your money back by envoking the "lemon law", talking about how bad the dealers were and the first, even though he couldn't get to it before August. You think maybe he had other appointments, scheduled appointments?! Sounds like to me, you didn't give him the opportunity....DUH!! Cognitive Dissonance............Hmmmmmmmm I wonder!
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Originally Posted by scramboy
Wow, a little front end shake, and you give up on a product that is generally very good.
Sounds like you deserve to be a Yamaha rider........
Quote from Dangermouse:
Wow, sounds like you have no sympathy for someone who spent over 8 grand for a defective product. Somehow I think you'd have a different opinion if your bike was shaking like a paint mixer.
Step off the brand loyalty stuff. I just want this fixed.
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Quoted from Dangermouse:
And the funny thing is, I was totally ready to be a 100% company man with Triumph. I was buying t-shirts and riding gear from Triumph -- I've been going through all the aftermarket stuff trying to decide which things I'm going to be doing. I was totally prepared to be an enthusiast. Heck, I wouldn't know about this board unless I was really excited about this bike. And there IS a lot to be excited about. The engine is fantastic (so far, knock on wood). Of course it's just a gorgeous bike, too.
We'll just see.
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You were the one talking about and being an " 100% company loyal enthusiast" or did you forget that. Sounds like a little Cognitive Dissonance to me!
Cheers
Jeff
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Last edited by Skull Crusher : 07-04-2008 at 04:51 PM.
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07-04-2008
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#16 (permalink)
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Umm, let's see.
I bought my bike without a test ride. It wasn't available. I bought it 'cos I trusted the company, and luckily the bike was exactly what I thought she would be. So I don't think Dangermouse is at fault there.
DM has a clearly defective product which needs to be fixed, now. He's paying good money for it. It's BS to say he's causing the shake. I have caused a tank slapper, but it's not something I want to continue for 20 miles.
A continuous shake would shake my confidence in riding the bike.
I don't think that suspension is causing the shake. The settings might cause you to bottom out, or ride too hard, and you may lose some traction in corners, but it's not going to cause a shake.
I think DM was asking for advice, and reassurance, and he just got a new ***hole drilled for him instead.
He's entitled to feel pissed off. I would be. And the response he's got here ain't going to help.
And dealers might not make money from warranty work, but they sure as hell can lose customers fast if they don't do it real quick with a "can do" attitude.
When I pay for a new bike I expect a bike I can ride now. They should be bending over backwards to give me that ASAP.
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07-05-2008
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#17 (permalink)
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I'm reopening this thread for positive discussion.
And mature conversation:
None of this
Or this
And definitely none of this
Otherwise I'm going to have to do some of this 
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07-05-2008
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#18 (permalink)
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I'm on my 3rd front tire. All 3 were steady as a rock when new and stayed that way for several thousand miles. Then all 3 started doing the same shake. Don't ask me why. i have no idea if it's the specific tire brand, which in my case is metzler. Or that the bike has something to do with it such as being over sensitive to extremely slight changes in tire roundness that is normal with wear. Mine is a speedmaster which is very different than a thrux. So i'd say if you have metzlers that may be the problem. Wish i knew because i hate it. The only fix i know of is to replace the tire every 3-4k miles. By the way, tire imperfections can be very problematic and hard to troubleshoot. I had a wierd cyclic vibration about a 100 miles after installing my second set of metzlers. I couldn't imagine how it could be the front tire given the symptoms which are too longwinded to go into. But as soon as i got a new tire the issue was 100% gone. I keep buying metzlers tho because the stick to the street like glue, and safety comes first.
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07-05-2008
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#19 (permalink)
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Yeah, but with a new bike he shouldn't have the headshake, 'cos the tires wont have worn.
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07-05-2008
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#20 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangermouse
You are making so many bad assumptions it isn't funny. My favorite?
"You didn't give the first dealer the chance to isolate the problem and repair it."
Yeah. Neat. Actually, I did take it back to that dealer. They said they couldn't look at it until August. Want to try again?
What you are suffering from is something called cogntive dissonance. I don't care to talk more to you about this. Clearly you are out to prove something -- and if that's the case, good. You win. Think anything you want; say anything you want about me... you're correct.
Now will you just go away? There are people here who are trying to help me instead of trying to enter into some kind of a p***ing contest.
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I had a problem with an 03 T-100. The bike had the same issue as you have and it never got resolved at all. I had to get rid o the bike at a loss.
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