Triumphrat

kurt_3_0_1 · 05-16-2008

so I have posted on here a few times about the cutting out surging and plain old dying on me problem right a few of you have responded that it may be the ignitor and I even read the thread to fat for my bonny thinking it was the ignitor. I took it to the dealership and under warranty paid $170 to have the battery replaced which they said was bad and not a yuasa. the other dealer put the wrong one in so the work and the new battery not covered under warranty yeah I know right. so after eight months two trips to the stealership and countless headaches what could be causing this problem? it happened again tonight. so when I got home I was a bit angry and passionate about discovering this problem. I took off the seat and with the bike at idle knock the crap out of the ingitor and nothing not even a hiccup I pulled and tugged on every wire I had still nothing I bypassed the kick stand switch still ran like a new ferrari so why did it keep dying whenever it wanted to? by the grace of the the lord almighty why couldnt i reproduce this problem on a whim afterall it sure did it whenever it wanted to and quite frequently. So now Im really mad and I am about to take of the tank to get to the coil and carbs and I was going to need room to swing the sledge hammer ha. as soon as I moved the tank gas started pooring everywhere and I moved it very gently and easily I promise. so I forgot to turn off the petcock sure but still I hadnt disconnected the fuel line yet so why is gas coming out at an alarming rate? well a closer inspection after all this time and all these great mechanics looking at it revealed a small tear in my fuel line right behind the hose clamp at the petcock. looking at the hose clamp now I am not surprised, it doesnt have any rolled edges and is quite sharp and the fuel line has all the thickness of a cheap condom so it didnt take much to cut through it. so as it turns out the problem was this the cut was bad but since it was in the bend it really didnt open up enough to leak fuel or I would have noticed it. it did however allow the vacuum of the carbs to pull air in and put air bubbles in my fuel line therefore starving me of gas. once the air bubble passed then my carbs would get gas again and all was right with the natural order of things. it was something so small that myself and many mechs overlooked it because we were thinking on such a bigger scale. so my bike is finally fixed after 7 months of searching and lessons learned 1. dont ever take your bike to D&D in pensacola they are a bunch of crooks. 2. dont let something overwhelm you so that right off the bat you go to all the great big things it could be and 3. dont try to move your tank when the engine is hot you know unless you are trying to set yourself on fire then by all means go for it.

gaptooth grin · 05-16-2008

good lord man! what an ordeal ! once again the old axiom that -education is always expensive,dont matter how you come about it.ya well as far as the people that did you wrong,,well cheaters never prosper ! and you have got to feel Fantastic,as in you are the man,i always feel that way everytime i solve a problem,or accomplish something difficult. im sure that you are glad that you decieded to tackle it yourself, you learned,and are well on your way to gaining enough knowledge about your machine ,where no-one will be able to pull crap on you again, good luck,,these things are really stone simple

Kirkus51 · 05-16-2008

I don't know if this falls under simple explanations or what, but thanks for the post and I have got to appreciate your tenacity. yet another thing i will check on my bonnie.

Binnsy · 05-16-2008

Dude, I did the exact same process with an old Honda years ago. the result was a bare wire under the fuel tank but it cost me plenty before I got mad and basically did what you did. It was dark and I pulled off the seat, panniers, tank bag, tank etc. then I saw a spark.....

Two inches of electrical tape fixed the problem...

Gob-ny-geay · 05-16-2008

I like the Jack Kerouac stream of consciousness style. Are you Jack Moriarity?

Just kidding, great stuff, and very interesting.

grayghost · 05-16-2008

Remember Billy Bob Thornton in "Swingblade"? Two mechanics looking at a large roto-tiller and couldn't get it running at a small engine repair shop. The famous line.....Billy Bob walks up, unscrews a cap and says "Ain't got no gas".

Always eliminate the obvious first.

" If its got compression, the right fuel air mixture, and a spark at the right time....it's gotta run" Cliff Wiig (my grandfather, mechanic, and mentor) I miss him dearly.

greyplague · 05-16-2008

Kurt,

Respect, dude!

Grtz, Thieu;

mikeinva · 05-16-2008

well i hope that cures it.Dont want to sound bad but i bet it will show its self again.They dont act like a car there gravaty fed hard for air bubbles to get in if its not leaking gas.

Baltobonneville · 05-16-2008

Amazing. The world's best mechanic would have had a hard time finding that one! Good lessons learned!

CAPTDON · 05-16-2008

I hope so!! Your rite leaking gas & a hot engine - DONT mix!! Your problem reminded of a friends Bonne. It was a looseclamp on the carb boot. When cold & hot- different symptoms. A quick turn w/ a screw driver & all was well! I have seen that more times than I can count- on newbikes that were SUPPOSED to be dealer prepped! Found mine in week 1. Friends actually had gas seeping down the side of the carb!! Ran like crap till the carbs/ engine warmed up &then all was well. Gotta keep an eye on ALL the nuts & bolts on these bikes! Stealership- whats that? Never been back since purchase!! Never will!!!!