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Old 05-13-2008   #11 (permalink)
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Scottoiler

Capt'n Don, Have to agree that a year without adjusting your chain is great. Makes me want to ask how many miles per year? In round numbers mine needs a quarter turn adjustment every 3000 miles.

Regarding the scottoiler, I have attached a couple of photos of my installation. No...the scottoiler doesn't keep the chain as clean as in the photo, it's only been 100 miles since I cleaned the chain with kerosene,... which I do at every adjustment. (two to three months of communting)

I have been through two and one half (.5 liter) bottles of lube since 2003. 18,000 miles on a Suzuki DR650 and 31,000 miles on the Bonnie.

$30 worth of oil in five years or 49,000 miles so the cost of oil isn't an issue for me.

Will also use penetrating oil as a cleaner / lube after riding in the rain if caught on tour with a dry chain. This keeps from upsetting the drip rate on the scottoiler and making the mess mentioned above.

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scottoilers

I wonder if you could use chainsaw oil in the scott oilers. It has an additive to make it cling to the saw blade while cutting. It feels like the old stp when you roll a drop between your fingers.
Although I use PJ-1 Blue Label on my chain, it is amazing how that stuff clings to the chain. I usually take the chain guard off when I clean/lube and normally, after a couple hundred miles, there will be a little tiny line of small droplets running down the underside of the guard. No heavy build up around the front sprocket.
Here in florida sand is the enemy, it does not matter where you drive in the state, you will get sand everywhere every time you ride, it's a constant battle to keep the bike clean but worth the time spend on cleaning. When I first get to the chain and start turning the back wheel to clean, you can hear the grinding noise that the sand makes when spinning the chain...yeeech....but all you can do is bless the o or x ring chains and trust them to keep the sand out of the critical parts and lube/clean often.
After all, we have to keep the parts suppliers busy shipping chains and sprockets.
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koifarm.............Scottoil is very similar to chainsaw oil, but of course Scottoil won't tell you that in fact many people use chainsaw oil in their Scottoilers to great effect.

I always find them very hard to set correctly - either not enough flow or it goes all over the road behind you.
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There is quite a detailed independent study of alternative oils which can be used in a Scottoiler on one of the many other biking forums (cant for the life of me remember which one!!)
The final conclusion was that the internals of the Scottoiler were all designed around the viscosity of Scottoil itself and altho stuff like Chainsaw oil can do the lubricating it poses problems with the feeding thro the Scottoiler and associated small pipework. It also has all the specific additives for lubrication of bike chains and sprockets
In other words............ use Scottoil in a Scottoiler!!
(and no, I dont work for them!! But Ive had a Scottoiler on every bike Ive had and wouldnt be without one now)
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I put used engine oil in my Scottoiler and adjust the flow according to the weather,i.e. turn it up for wet and down for dry.It takes some experimentation to get the right flow but once that's done it works great.
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PTFE motorcycle chain dry lube spray- still no complaints.
Cleanest part of my bike


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Thumbs up Adjust/ Miles

Cant really say for sure since I had a flat 1x & had to re-adjust then. Then 5000 mi+ & time for a new tire. Had to re-adjust then as well. Id say- 5-6000 mi & no adjustment isnt unrreal? Havent had the time to check. I am only getting 6000 mi outa my back tires so w/ no adjustment (cept flats etc) cant really say? I love the wax tho!! I wish they had it back in the 70-80's!! No mess & long lasting!! Then they had different chains back then as well.
Bud just replaced his @ 38000 mi so I guess I got ways to go? No mess- less hassle!
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Ah, I just love a nice clean chain also. But the consideration is having dirty rims (oh, yes, I love clean rims also..), compared to using a modern chain lube specified for modern chains.

Long story, short story, go with a designed lube for chains and ride the bike.

Motorcycle chains have come a long way in recent years. They are made to handle it...
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Tried the Repsol today. Can't say it's amazing, but can't say anything bad either. For $8.99 a can it's pretty cheap, so I'll probably keep using it.
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my personal preference is Yamaha chain lube.

the black and sticky stuff that wont scrub off your hands and sticks like #hit to a blanket, but good chain lube, and cheap.
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