Triumphrat

MOZZA12 · 12-22-2007

I have a 2005 T100 865,AI removed .snorkel removed,unifilter fitted,125 main jet,40 air jet,2.5 turns out,free flow silencer fitted,restrictor still fitted.BUT IT STILL RUNS TO RICH.can anyone help??????

Baltobonneville · 12-22-2007

Sweatmachine would suggest that you run a search, he doesn't like answering the same question twice.

I can't answer your question, but I like reading answers more than once, because it often doesn't sink in the first time, or I forget.

Good luck to you!

ggRAT · 12-22-2007

(There is no SINGLE right answer for YOUR bike. But I hope this helps.)

STOCK/BASELINE FOR BONNEVILLES & THRUXTONS (Unverified)
790cc w/Keihin CVK36 with Air Box (+) and Air Injection (+)
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST
110.0 / 40.0 / ... /Stock/ . /+ /+ /Stock (Bonneville & T100)
110.0 / 40.0 / ... /Thrux/ . /+ /+ /Stock (Thruxton)
================================================== ===========
MODIFIED BONNEVILLES & THRUXTONS
790cc w/Keihin CVK36
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST.....RIDER
125.0 / 40.0 / ... /stock/ . /no/no/Emgo........oldroadie
122.0 / 42.0 / ... /stock/ . /+ /no/TORs........ohiorider
125.0 / 42.0 /-2.5 /stock/ 1 /+ /no/Emgo........NewOldSkool
158.0 / 42.0 /-1.0 /stock/ 0 /- /. /NH Togas....RedBird
145.0 / 42.0 / ... /Thrux/ . /no/no/? ..........Loxpump
130.0 / 42.0 /-2.5 / ... / . /no/no/Staintune...pabonne
125.0 / 40.0 /-3.0 /Thrux/ 1 /. /no/NH Togas....webonnielad
125.0 / 42.0 /-2.25/stock/ 0 /no/no/Thruxton....jcline8

790cc w/Mikuni42
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST.....RIDER
152.5 / 22.5 /-.50 / ...........................bonnieblackinfl

865cc w/Keihin CVK36
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST.....RIDER
140.0 / 42.0 /-2.5 /Thrux/ 1 /no/no/Dominator...SLOBonnie
142.0 / 45.0 /-2.5 /stock/ . /../../Predators...Chalawah
132.0 / 42.0 / ... /stock/ 1 /no/no/EMGO+DW.....TridentDave (DW=Dunstall Widemouth)
125.0 / 45.0 /-1.75/Thrux/ 0 /no/no/D&D.........GREYTOP
140.0 / 42.0 /-2.0 /stock/ . /no/no/D&D.........Kramocker
130.0 / 40.0 /-3.0 /Thrux/ 1 /no/. /Epco........05Truxter
125.0 / 42.0 /-3.5 /stock/ 1 /no/no/TORs........BlueJ
125.0 / 40.0 /-2.5 /stock/ 1 /no/no/TORs........gumpT100
140.0 / 42.0 /-3.0 /Thrux/ 1 /. /no/D&D.........Thruxtonone
142.0 / 40.0 /-3.0 /...../ 1 /no/no/Predators...Thrux-ton-up
142.0 / 40.0 /-3.0 /stock/ 1 /no/no/MototwinSS..Wolverine

865cc w/Keihin CR
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST.....RIDER
125.0 / .... /-2.0 /Thrux/ . /no/no/Predators...SHRuuM
120.0 / 60.0 /-2.0 /...../ . /no/no/Raask.......Blackjack

904cc w/Keihin CVK36
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST.....RIDER
140.0 / 45.0 /-1.5 /Thrux/ 0 /no/no/Predators...ggRAT
152.0 / 45.0 /...../...../ . /../../............Brooksie
155.0 / 40.0 /-4.5 /...../ . /../../............jojje
140.0 / 42.0 /...../...../ . /../../............ttbonnie
155.0 / 42.0 /-1.0 /...../ . /../../............sweatmachine
150.0 / 42.0 /...../Thrux/ . /../../Bubs........vertwrks

904cc w/Keihin FCR39
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST.....RIDER
150.0 /....../...../...../ . /no/no/............robnobrakes

904cc w/Mikuni42
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST.....RIDER
142.5 / 22.5 /-.75 /...../ . /no/no/............SCCTrim

1200cc w/Mikuni42
MAINS /PILOTS/TURNS/NEEDL/SHM/AB/AI/EXHAUST.....RIDER
147.5 / 22.5 /-.50 /...../ . /no/no/............bonnieblackinfl

NOTE1: For Speedmaster & TBA settings go to Pat's Triumph Site
http://www.dinqua.com/Triumph/carbs0.html

NOTE2: For more info, see old thread...
http://www.triumphrat.net/club-cafe/...-database.html
or
http://www.triumphrat.net/club-cafe/...ot-jets-3.html

NOTE3: Elevation is < 1000 ft. above sea level unless noted.

stoatgrinder · 12-22-2007

Right now I have the same setup on my '07, and yes, it is running rich as well. Just did a dyno run that proved it. I was somewhat surprised because the plugs didn't look too bad. Still, I knew the bike wasn't running clean at full throttle and my mileage was terrible. For our bikes the 125 mains appear to be too rich without removing the restrictor plate in the airbox. I just ordered 122's as well as a Jenk's velocity stack for the airbox opening. I'm thinking that will do it for now.

cafecruzin · 12-22-2007

i'd suggest 120 main would be closer to the mark

coelacanth · 12-22-2007

I second 120 mains.

I have close setup for my 07 bonnie. My cans are TORs though.

I was playing with 120 / 125 mains, with / without snorkel. Both 120 with snorkel and 125 without snorkel turned out a bit too rich. I'm trying out 120 without snorkel and feeling pretty good.

JKDJose · 12-22-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by coelacanth

I second 120 mains.

I have close setup for my 07 bonnie. My cans are TORs though.

I was playing with 120 / 125 mains, with / without snorkel. Both 120 with snorkel and 125 without snorkel turned out a bit too rich. I'm trying out 120 without snorkel and feeling pretty good.

Yeah that sounds correct, but if you have Togas or Sprints you need 125's.

I ran with 120's with Sprints and the bike ran like crap.

coelacanth · 12-22-2007

Right. MOZZA, what cans exactly do you have? I can imagine the level of free-flow-ness is TORs < Dominators Touring < Sprints.

stoatgrinder feels 122 is good for Dom Touring, which I suppose a little less open compare to true free flow cans. If your cans are truly free-flow like EMGO/Sprint or Togas, 125 should be about right.

I actually fitted 125s with Sprints after talking with JKDJose and felt that was right on. I switched to TORs shortly after so I couldn't really spend enough time with the setup though.