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| Twins Technical Talk Technical Talk for Hinckley Triumph Twins: Bonneville, T100, Speedmaster, America, Thruxton, and Scrambler |
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12-01-2007
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Powerbike Favorite Bike: 07' Bonnie
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Jersey
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Dealers!!!!
I had to drop the bike off today to get a few items taken care of:
Leaking valve cover gasket
Leaking cooler lines
The clutch cable had been resting on the header
and the brake lines had been rubbing against my front fender and worn the line and the fender. (all warranty items)
The dealer looks at the bike and agrees no questions that all will be taken care of...
...I leave the dealer and drive home 30min and get a phone call...
"Jon while we have the bike I want to adjust the valves, it's time you know. (I thought the valves needed to be adjusted at 12000mi not 6000). No it is 6000 Jon."
A quick look at my manual and I corrected him that the correct valve adjustment interval is 8000mi.
I can't believe they were trying to scam me so they would not have to put in the VC gasket on warranty.
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12-01-2007
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uh.....I'm pretty cherry when it comes to "regular" maintenance on a bike.....valve adjustment? do tell??? 
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NB Drag Bars, Napoleon Bar-Ends, 19t Front Sproket, Bobbed front and rear fender, Lucas style taillight and bullet signal lights, blacked headers (hey, it's different than from when I got it), Matte Black Side Covers, and fenders, Red seat "embossing", Pazzo Racing Black anodized short levers, BC Predator exhaust, ARK & a rejet, AI removed
OTW: painted tank and headlight bucket w/ screen
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12-01-2007
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Jon - The first scheduled valve clearance check/adjustment is due at 12,000 miles, or 2 years. Not 6,000 or even 8,000 miles. And it certainly hasn't been 2 years if yours is a 2007 model. Don't know if your dealer is scamming you, but they're ignorant about your bike's maintenance schedule at the very least. 
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Last edited by road_dog : 12-01-2007 at 03:34 PM.
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12-01-2007
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Moto Grand Prix Favorite Bike: '05 Bonnie Black
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Location: NE Ohio
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Jon: somebody will correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember that the interval for the first adjustment used to be, on earlier models, 6000 miles. My memory may be way off on that one, but if that is right, the dealer may not have known that the newer Bonnies go to 12K. (I know. He should have known, but the point is he may not have been trying to scam you).
I believe that on my 01 Tbird there was a check at 600, 6000, and then every 12K so I may be confusing the two.
Monte 
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12-01-2007
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Actually, my owners manual calls for 8000mi or 2yrs. But I agree they were trying to get extra (non warranty) work out of me.
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12-01-2007
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I know it has been a while since Triumph made the service interval changes. And you'd think the dealer should be aware of them. But oil change interval went from 4k miles to 6k and valve adjustments went from 6k miles to 8k.
Could the dealer have had the old intervals in mind? Seems odd that he wouldn't be up om the latest word.
After my original adjustment at... umm... 9k miles, I went 12k between them after that and the valves were always fine... needing little or no adjustment...
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12-01-2007
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Monte, you are correct.
Triumph has backed of their service schedule several times since introducing the Bonnie line.
It is now 12K miles or 2 years.
seems the thing are tougher than planned.
However. Depending on the milage and time since bought it could make sence to do it since your allready inside.
My cover started to weep at 8K I took it in at 9K and they did the valves.
2 exhaust and 1 intake were out of spec.
all were replaced.
Meehhhh.
in JHTJOHN's case it sounds like they are misinformed or are trying to piggyback some moneymaking work onto the job.
since the latter is possable I would check very carefully all the work that is done under this work order to make sure that new parts where indeed used and that the work was done to spec.
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12-01-2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCbonneville
I know it has been a while since Triumph made the service interval changes. And you'd think the dealer should be aware of them. But oil change interval went from 4k miles to 6k and valve adjustments went from 6k miles to 8k.
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When was this change??? I'm looking at the owners handbook that came with my 2006 and after the initial 500 mile service, the intervals are in 6,000 mile/1 year increments ONLY. Oil change is 500, 6K, 12K, 18K and 24K miles. Valve clearances are 12K and 24K miles. There's NOTHING at 8,000 miles.
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12-01-2007
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Maintenance
I think the intervals changed in the 2005 models. Guess they decided the engines were not all that delicate or they were getting hammered about the short intervals. Valve adjustment is now 12000 mi..
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12-01-2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by road_dog
When was this change??? I'm looking at the owners handbook that came with my 2006 and after the initial 500 mile service, the intervals are in 6,000 mile/1 year increments ONLY. Oil change is 500, 6K, 12K, 18K and 24K miles. Valve clearances are 12K and 24K miles. There's NOTHING at 8,000 miles.
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I believe it was late '03 or in early '04 that the intervals changed... Get an '01 or '02 Bonnie manual (I had an '02 Bonnie)... Oil changes were at 4k miles and valves at 6k... They were VERY conservative early on. As info about durability was gathered, service intervals lengthened...
And if valves are now 12k then they lengthened them again...
Remember, you have an '06... you came to the party late (wink, wink) ... Lots of data/info gathered by Triumph since '01 about the Bonnie engine...
Late edit.. I just check my service manual (published 2002) to check the service intervals and I was mistaken... At THAT time (which applied to my '02) they were 4k for oil (using synthetics) and 8k for valves. Those were later ('03 or '04) lengthened to the current 6k/12k intervals. In fact, all the intervals at that time were in 4k/8k (4k/8k/16k/24k/etc.) mile increments....
Last edited by SCbonneville : 12-01-2007 at 04:56 PM.
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