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10-15-2007
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Scrambler baffle / air / fuel advice please?
I've an '06 Scrambler and have just fitted TOR mufflers along with 115 mains (as suggested by local dealer). They've also just suggested that I remove the baffle plate from within the airbox and fit a K&N air filter.
Before I get too deep into removing the airbox to access the baffle plate, could I ask for your thoughts on the changes? I'd just like the bike to have a bit more poke and a nicer note (don't like the sound of these TOR pipes but I'm stuck with them for now).
Many thanks.
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'06 Scrambler: TORs, AI / baffle plate removed, 19t sprocket, 115 mains. No blueing, no popping.
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10-15-2007
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The restrictor plate inside that airbox seperates the area of the filter and the intakes. I removed mine, along with the snorkel and added Uni filter, and loved the results. But if you do remove them, you will want to adjust the jetting again as the increase in air will lean her out. But it will increase smile factor(hp)!
Mondo
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10-16-2007
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Your bike's details say 'Bafflectomy (two baffles)'. What does that mean? Sorry if I'm being stupid.
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'06 Scrambler: TORs, AI / baffle plate removed, 19t sprocket, 115 mains. No blueing, no popping.
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10-16-2007
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[quote=BrianM;850226]Your bike's details say 'Bafflectomy (two baffles)'. What does that mean?quote]
I removed the last baffle and drilled most of the second one one of the stock exhaust. Slight inprovement in performance (nowhere near that of aftermarket) but a much better tone, closer to TORs.
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10-16-2007
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Wish I'd thought to do that. Would've saved myself $800.... :-(
Thanks.
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'06 Scrambler: TORs, AI / baffle plate removed, 19t sprocket, 115 mains. No blueing, no popping.
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10-16-2007
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Not to worry, you went a good route. I like the way mine turned out, but will end up replacing them theis winter with aftermarket pipes. If you look at the way both are put together, you paid for a open/straight through exhaust, where as stock... unless totally gutted... will always be restrictive. It is closer to the sound level of TORs, but yours will out perform. That would be a good reason for you to upgrade the intake of the bike as well. It will allow you to match the exhaust upgrade, and pulling the snorkel and restrictor plate and uping to better filter is the perfect mate to TORs IMO. Plus a simple mod for 30-40 bucks would be well worth it power/performance wise.
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10-16-2007
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I would go with the uni
It basically flows the same but filters a little better. more surface area to catch stuff and is easy to clean. just as a bonus is half the price of the k&N. I do like K&N though I use one on the guzzi and v-strom. You will have to go up on the jetting again prob. to about 125 or 128, and will want to add a shim. The air box baffle is a pain to remove so leave yourself a good afternoon for the job, you will have to remove the back wheel and depending on your level of finesse the swing arm too, I did not but a lot say you have to I was able to drop it and massage it out. You will notice more noise with the plate out and snork, it really starts sucking like a hoover.
Sorry just noticed it is a scrambler forget the shim you have a better needle taper than the pre '07 bonnies.
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Last edited by uzidzit : 10-16-2007 at 12:31 AM.
Reason: corrected
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10-16-2007
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Thanks again chaps. Much appreciated.
Oh, thanks for the 'Office Space' reminders too. One of my favourite films. I've even used it with Sociology students to talk about modern work environments.
"I'm a free man and I haven't had a conjugal visit in six months..."
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'06 Scrambler: TORs, AI / baffle plate removed, 19t sprocket, 115 mains. No blueing, no popping.
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10-22-2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uzidzit
The air box baffle is a pain to remove so leave yourself a good afternoon for the job, you will have to remove the back wheel and depending on your level of finesse the swing arm too.
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I removed it from my Scrambler by removing all the screws you can remove (that means all except the ones behind the frametubes) on both sidecovers of the airbox. Opening those up and then pushing the baffle plate out as far as possible to the right-hand side to force it out and down out of the groove it sits in. I then took a screwdriver and bent downwards on the plate on the left-hand side until some plastic broke from the groove it sits in and I could yank it out!
A very low level of finesse..he he.
Be sure to check that there is no bits of plastic left before you close up again.
Cheers
Mal
Last edited by Mallkolm : 10-24-2007 at 07:39 AM.
Reason: clarification
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10-22-2007
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Thanks. Actually, that's what I did. Wished I'd gone the other route though. Felt a bit brutal. Managed to get all the screws out with long nose vise grips.
Nice induction noise. Reminds me of my old 996 of all things.
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'06 Scrambler: TORs, AI / baffle plate removed, 19t sprocket, 115 mains. No blueing, no popping.
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