Triumphrat

REVOLT · 07-28-2007

Anyone use this stuff...I bought a bottle at a local shop whiole out and about today...it's a 2 oz bottle, one bottle is for a 4 gallon tank...The techs swear by it...one guy runs it every other month to keep things clean? I'm not a big buyer when it comes to stuff like this...I figure if the manufacturer suggested it or advised it for maint. purpose then I'll buy it...but I guess they didn't suggest pulling the airbox, adding cone filters, re-jetting, and going to straight pipes too! HA!!

So does anyone think I should or shoudl not use this stuff...there are reviews all over the internet praising this stuff...but I trust your opinion over those guys...we're family right?

sweatmachine · 07-28-2007

why do you need to boost the octane? The answer is, you don't.

If you don't need higher octane it won't help at all. If it has some cleaning agents then it may help something, but the octane boost won't do anything for you.

REVOLT · 07-28-2007

Thanks sweat...it was only 3 bucks...

Stealth · 07-28-2007

I agree what do you need it for?

Fraederichs · 07-28-2007

I considered using something like this. My mechanic mentioned I could use a tune-up--it's a little slowish in his mind--and I figured it might clean stuff up a little. I'm no mechanic, but could it take some crap off the carbs, or the needles? What the hell does a tune-up mean anyway?

REVOLT · 07-28-2007

Come on guys...Seriously???...

STEALTH- Hello? THAT IS WHY I ASKED? I was just wondering if anyone has used it and if so...DID IT HELP? It wasn't a question of NEED? Rather a simple inquiry as to the gains from using the stuff?

Blindboypig · 07-28-2007

I don't think Stealth was trying to be a smarta** - just saying unless you need more octane (engine pinging due to detonation), you are just paying more for a tank of gas.

Octane is merely a measure of a fuel's ability to resist pre-ignition or detonation.

A tune up is one of the most over-used excuses to rape a customer of money a shop can use. It used to consist of resetting or replacing points, condensors, wires, coil caps, plugs, lubing ignition rotor lobes, etc. Nowadays, with electronic ignitions, high-quality coils and wires, and cleaner burning engines, a tune up MAY consist of changing spark plugs. Just follow normal maintenance procedures and you'll be fine.

Stealth · 07-28-2007

Hey guys, Here is what we found out with our un-scientific test in Floridia.
The weather is brutily hot with super high humidity. Six of us decide to put Mavel Mystery oil in our bikes to combat what we all thought was moistore from the high humidity. All not one or two had good results. Could it be be magic or that the humidty here is so high that MMO help combat moisture in the fuel who knows?

My point is that I have never seen or read a controled test on any of these products yet all six of us where satrisfied with the end resut. So who knows.

Lanser · 07-28-2007

There will be lots of folk who will have have more good knowledge of the interaction between the Octane ratings , RON levels and performance in modern engines, than me. . But I think that it is important to comment that knocking or pre-ignition used to be problem on older generation engines using higher Octane fuels, so the fuel makers added lead derivatives to reduce the knocking. They effectively increase the temperature, that fuel will ignite at a given pressure and air mix.

Since the banning of lead, fuel makers have added other anti-knock agents, detergents and a raft of other chemicals to "add value ". Modern engines with computer based ignition mapping, are now also much better able to prevent knocking. This means that many engines will now run fine on a wide rage of RON fuels, with only a small number of typically very high RMP or sport engines requiring high performance fuels .

BTW here is something for your next trivia night.
Octane is just the "8th" in the following family of organic molecules.
Methane, Ethane, Propane, Butane, Pentane, Hexane, Hepatane, Octane, Nonane, Decane. The further you go up the chain, the bigger and heavier the molecule gets and the higher it's ignition temp.