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06-26-2007
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This weekend a car stopped short about 20 yards in front of me. I hit the brakes pretty hard and the back tire locked up. I must say the Bonnie was well balanced and handled really well, just a small fishtail and a good screech from the tires. I was really pleased.
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06-26-2007
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I scared myself a little the first time I locked up the rear, but the bonnie didn't panic, so neither did I. Scared myself the first time I heard the pegs scrapping too.
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06-26-2007
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I agree, gives you a little pucker factor the first time you lock up the back break. It seems to lock up pretty easy, so I barely use it anymore. but that might have something to do with me being a little "heavy handed" when I operate things.
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NB Drag Bars, Napoleon Bar-Ends, 19t Front Sproket, Bobbed front and rear fender, Lucas style taillight and bullet signal lights, blacked headers (hey, it's different than from when I got it), Matte Black Side Covers, and fenders, Red seat "embossing", Pazzo Racing Black anodized short levers, BC Predator exhaust, ARK & a rejet, AI removed
OTW: painted tank and headlight bucket w/ screen
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06-26-2007
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I had a similar experience about two years back. And yes the bike does balance well in a skid.
I'm not preaching here but a lesson you may wish to take from this experience is that a locked rear tire does not provide the shortest stopping distance.
After I locked up the rear (and it happened more than once), I trained myself to rely on the front brake much more than the rear. I figure this may have saved my life this past weekend when I was doing high 80's behind a merc when he hit the brakes hard after spotting a trooper on the side of the road. If I would have gone to the back brake, I'm sure I'd have rear-ended the merc.
Ride safe out there boys & girls...
P
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06-26-2007
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I had the rear wheel lock up on me when I missed a stop sign that was hidden by foliage. I saw it at the last minuet and applied the breaks. The rear wheel locked up and did a couple of hops and then I saw that no one was coming from any direction so I just released and cruised through it. I was only doing about 40mph so it wasn't that big of a deal - thank God no one was around!
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06-26-2007
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what you may want to do is practice some hard stops in a empty parking lot, so when you need to do it for real it does not come as a total surprise.
Practice threshold braking , learning where the lock-up point is, and holding it just short of that
G
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06-26-2007
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allot of the issues comes from the soft front suspension. Upgrading the springs upfront really helps with the weight transfer under braking. I have not locked the rear brake since an upgrade in front springs.
Greg
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06-26-2007
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[quote]
On 2007-06-26 14:04, bonnieblackinfl wrote:
I have not locked the rear brake since an upgrade in front springs.
....just curious...was your upgrade just fork springs? i just had that done (progressive).
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06-26-2007
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what front shocks did you upgrade to?
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2007 Bonnie Black
NB Drag Bars, Napoleon Bar-Ends, 19t Front Sproket, Bobbed front and rear fender, Lucas style taillight and bullet signal lights, blacked headers (hey, it's different than from when I got it), Matte Black Side Covers, and fenders, Red seat "embossing", Pazzo Racing Black anodized short levers, BC Predator exhaust, ARK & a rejet, AI removed
OTW: painted tank and headlight bucket w/ screen
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06-26-2007
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Ikon progressives, they made a huge difference in braking. I also have KYB adjustable rears (ZRX 1200 donors), which helped with weight transfer also, but nothing like the springs.
[ This message was edited by: bonnieblackinfl on 2007-06-26 17:42 ]
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