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| Twins Technical Talk Technical Talk for Hinckley Triumph Twins: Bonneville, T100, Speedmaster, America, Thruxton, and Scrambler |
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05-24-2007
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Gathering info on my Thrux project. Looking at a setup that consists for:
1000 feet to sea level
Open Exhaust (Predators)
Air Box hacked with K&N's
Air Injection pulled
Jenks Suggestions for the Thruxton with the mods as stated above:
Mains = 140
Pilots = 40 (stock)
Needle Shim = 1 (where do I get one?)
Needle = NBTZ
Pilot Screw = 2.5 turns (stock)
Airhole on slide opened up to 3mm from 2.5mm
Now... Jenks has a NBZT as the STOCK needle... and has a NBTZ as the suggested needle. Anyone know if this is just a typo? (Page 10 of the Jenk's manual)
Thanks!
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05-24-2007
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NBTZ is the stock needle used in the 865's. Also called Thruxton needles... don't think its a typo
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05-24-2007
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No, No, No. The "Thruxton" needle, also fitted to the 865cc T100, is the NBZT. Look at the Triumph workshop manual and the Haynes book. NBTZ IS a typo in Jenks' doco. Perhaps someone should tell him, perhaps I will.
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Herts. UK
Opal & Tangerine 05 T100 (865cc)
(Previously Ducati Monster S4 and numerous UJMs)
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05-24-2007
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ahh, doh! didn't see that it was TZ/ZT, thought it was the same :chug:
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02 Bonneville - Originally green/silver , now going black. Dual headlights/black fly screen. Emgo Shortys, rubber bellmouth, Uni, AI, 120/42, thrux needles, no shims. Thruxton seat and low bars. Ikon 7614 shocks, renntec rack. A Bonnie Cafetourer..
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05-24-2007
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ivar,
I thought you were applying for an editorial job at P. Jenks. :-D
Larry
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2003 T-100 (790cc), NARK, NH Togas, 8100 rpm rev limiter, 158 main jets, 42 pilot jets (less than 1 turn out on pilot screws), stock needles--no shims. 13 A/F ratio from 1100 rpm to 4000 rpm; 12 A/F ratio from 4000 rpm to 6000 rpm; 13 A/F from 6000 rpm to 8100 rpm.:D
2007 Tiger 1050--White:D--SW-Motech crashbars, Skidmarx rear hugger/chain guard, Calsci +7 windscreen.
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05-25-2007
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I've messed with a few bikes and their carb needles, and slight taper differences are sometimes separated in the similar manner. (letters or numbers) Yes, TZ vs ZT typo can cause a little confusion. Thanks guys.
[ This message was edited by: unitedrocker on 2007-05-25 08:08 ]
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Never settle for the usual.
'05 865 Thrux-ton - Super-Duper Modified: painted inner tube caps yellow, purple tassels on the bars, and pink neon lighting.
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05-25-2007
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In case anyone's interested, I had a dialog today with Jenks about another issue and asked him about the discrepancies in his tuning guide regarding needle names. He confirmed that "NBTZ" is a typo and should read NBZT. He is going to correct this and put a new version up on his site in the near future.
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Herts. UK
Opal & Tangerine 05 T100 (865cc)
(Previously Ducati Monster S4 and numerous UJMs)
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