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05-24-2007
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riding along having a great old time today and notice no back brake and the rear was a bit skittish. stop to find a not inconsierable oil leak with the rear of the bike covered in the stuff. I had just entered a country town having just gone through some pretty windy stuff. phew
turns out the oil filter seal split radially, sending about a litre onto the rear tyre, disc, brakes - pretty much everything rear of the oil filter. Must have happened over a bit of a longer period though (maybe 10km) as a litre out a hole like that would take some doing i would have thought.
it was the first non-genuine filter ive used in about 12,000km although one alot of mechanics here use - ill get the name of in the morning.
anybody ever have this happen? does everyone just stick with genuine, or better, or was this just a freak occurrence?
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05-24-2007
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I can't be of any help, but I do have a question from curiosity. Is the cross section of the seal that split a square or "O"? I haven't used many different motorcycle filters, but on auto's I have been a bit leery of the ones with the square cross section instead of the "o" ring seal since I sometimes overtighten the ones on my autos.
Larry
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2003 T-100 (790cc), NARK, NH Togas, 8100 rpm rev limiter, 158 main jets, 42 pilot jets (less than 1 turn out on pilot screws), stock needles--no shims. 13 A/F ratio from 1100 rpm to 4000 rpm; 12 A/F ratio from 4000 rpm to 6000 rpm; 13 A/F from 6000 rpm to 8100 rpm.:D
2007 Tiger 1050--White:D--SW-Motech crashbars, Skidmarx rear hugger/chain guard, Calsci +7 windscreen.
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05-24-2007
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Yes, a freak occurrance but it does happen as you experienced. The good news is you caught it before the crankcase was empty. The bad news is you need new rear brake pads.
Would like to know the filter brand :???:
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05-25-2007
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Supersport 600
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o ring was round redbird
brand was Hiflofiltro - thought it was suppose to be a good one - lotsa triumph riders use them around here with no complaimts. must have been just a freak occurrence.
had a crack at cleaning the pads - no luck with anything i tried.
im a lot more vigilant about pre-ride checks now - -not that it would have helped in this situation i suppose......
[ This message was edited by: mlc on 2007-05-25 09:35 ]
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05-25-2007
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I'm glad that you didn't run completely out of oil or crash.
take care down under!
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05-25-2007
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That's the brand my dealer sells...along with the Triumph brand.
Larry
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2003 T-100 (790cc), NARK, NH Togas, 8100 rpm rev limiter, 158 main jets, 42 pilot jets (less than 1 turn out on pilot screws), stock needles--no shims. 13 A/F ratio from 1100 rpm to 4000 rpm; 12 A/F ratio from 4000 rpm to 6000 rpm; 13 A/F from 6000 rpm to 8100 rpm.:D
2007 Tiger 1050--White:D--SW-Motech crashbars, Skidmarx rear hugger/chain guard, Calsci +7 windscreen.
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05-25-2007
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once i had the tyre cleaned up and grippy again (first priority) the next major issue was deflecting the cr ap ive received from mates and work collegues about good old triumph oil spitters.
funny thing is though - that even with the (temporary) oil leak, most of them are still as jealous as hell of the bonnie. oil leaks just add to the myth and mystique (thats what i tell myself anyhows)
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05-25-2007
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Quote:
On 2007-05-24 03:17, mlc wrote:
...it was the first non-genuine filter ive used in about 12,000km although one alot of mechanics here use - ill get the name of in the morning.
anybody ever have this happen? does everyone just stick with genuine, or better, or was this just a freak occurrence?
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This gave me a flashback to about 30 years ago when I rebuilt a Toyota engine using a Fel-Pro instead of Toyota gasket set. Fel-Pro was, and is, a highly regarded brand and I thought I could save a few bucks by buying their gaskets instead of Toyota's. Unfortunately, at least back then, they didn't even come close to Toyota. Within a month I had to replace every gasket, including the main oil seals for the crankshaft, because every single gasket and oil seal failed; oil was gushing out of everything. The valve cover gasket didn't even get me to work the first day without pouring oil onto the exhaust manifold. I didn't save a penny by using less expensive than genuine parts. But I learned a life-long lesson.
Rich
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