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03-11-2007
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Supersport 600 Favorite Bike: 2007 Bonneville Black
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Little Rock Arkansas
Posts: 156
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Ok, I've got 300 miles on my 07 Bonne Black. It's hesitating and sounds like it wants to dies...this goes on all the time....hot or cold. I had the shop check the gas tank vent..it's working. They checked the carbs...they say they are fine. They adjusted the idle.
Their solution...it's bad gasoline. Use a higher grade. Or my tank has junk in it.....even though it's just run approximately 3 tanks of gas through it.
I really, really want to love this bike....it's just getting hard to live with. OH yeah did I mention that it takes about 5 mintutes to start when it's cold? It's getting embarrassing sitting in my driveway cranking away at a brand new bike....especially when the neighbor cranks up his Honda cruiser and is on his way before I even get my Bonnie started!
What is wrong with it?
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03-11-2007
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dana NC
Posts: 674
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Take the bike back to the dealer and tell them to fix it as it is under warranty :hammer: You should not have to play games with a new bike
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03-11-2007
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Super Sidecars
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: USA-CT-Norwalk
Posts: 46
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I'd bring it back to the dealer, and tell him he's got 1 week to make it right,
or you want your money back. In full!
***?
Good luck,
Uncle Charlie
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03-11-2007
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Grand Prix 125
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 40
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:???: 300 miles?????????? Sounds to me like maybe there was some junk in your tank or lines and it made into the carbs possibly blocking pilot jets and or fuel flow to the carbs themselves. Whatever the case, you should really press your dealer to do the right thing....verify your issue, then go about making a repair. Sorry to here you are having such trouble.
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03-11-2007
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Supersport 600 Favorite Bike: 2007 Bonneville Black
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Little Rock Arkansas
Posts: 156
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Thanks for the replies. I just needed to vent for a bit...it's been pretty frustrating.
The dealer seems to have good customer relationships from what I've heard and experienced.
What is more frustrating is that it does occasionally seem to work itself out.....then I love it and have a great time cruising around on her.
I'm hoping the relationship can be saved.....
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03-12-2007
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SuperBike
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Austin, TX USA
Posts: 1,477
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You are off to a rough start. ***** in the tank or bad gas, they should have run this through and made sure there was a good ride in before turning it back.
If its one of those things that comes and goes, they need to look deeper, as in electrics/airflow/carb setup. Have they had a chance to start the bike cold?
Have they had their hands on it when it was running poorly? They may suspect you have buyers remorse, and are exaggerating the condition.
Have you been given the opportunity to speak directly with the mechanic? Some service managers shield their mechanics, so you have to push your way back. Hopefully this is not the case, since you say they seem to have a good rep.
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03-12-2007
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Supersport 600
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Springdale, AR
Posts: 178
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TommyTwin,
Talk to Dale, he put my bike right. I had it back within a week. Good luck! When you get back on the road there are quite a few of us in AR that ride together. Can we count you in?
VR6 :hammer:
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03-12-2007
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Powerbike
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: new jersey
Posts: 386
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Does the bike run ok except at idle?
What is the idle speed when hot?
Its supposed to be about 1000 rpm when full HOT.
My bike changes quite a bit between cold (40F) and full hot,
like a 700 rpm difference.
I have had to turn the idle speed up to get it started when its real cold out.
I also adjusted the idle mixture screws a bit more rich for winter, which helps. Larger pilot jets might help cold starting.
It sure sounds like a fuel delivery problem, maybe drain the carbs and check for ***** in the bowls. There are screws on the bottom that open a drain, you can put a tube on the drain nipple and run it into a jar, and check for junk/water.
Although the shop said they checked the vent, maybe open the gas cap once and a while and see if that improves things.
I never trust shops to actualy do what they say they did.
I would also check the vacuum lines and ports to make sure you dont have a leak.
Another thing to check would be the throttle position sensor, a problem there might cause the bike to run funky.
Some owners have also improved things by raising the fuel level in the bowls a little, like 1 mm?
My bike is hard to start when its really cold out, but never had any hesitation when warm.
Brett
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03-12-2007
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Team Owner Favorite Bike: 904 Bonnie/Daytona 675
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 3,255
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Pre-delivery set up and inspection should have caught that issue. The bike is a great one, so don't give up on it. A belly full of bad gas sounds like it came from the dealer that way. To be safe, never run with anything less than premium grade of a large fuel mfg. like Shell or BP. Sounds like somebodiy is trying to get out of fixing the bike under warranty.
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03-12-2007
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SuperBike Favorite Bike: 05 Black Speedmaster
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: B.C., Canada
Posts: 1,550
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Only 300 miles ? I doubt if the carbs are fouled, sounds like an electrical problem to me. In any case, it's new. Back to the dealer :???:
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