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03-11-2007
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250 Grand Prix
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 146
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Hi Gang,
I'm ready to do the Airbox Removal Kit on my T100 and need to decide which one to order. I don't mind spending the $300 they all seem to cost as long as the kit is high quality and complete.
Very important is: which kit comes with the best installation guide? I have plenty of tools and good mechanical ability, but lack experience, so clear, complete instructions are critical.
(I'm installing TORs this week, if that influences which kit.)
Thanks in advance for your advice!
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03-11-2007
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Formula Extreme
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 762
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Just an observation from previous post...I've read where TORs will not allow the ARK (Any of them) to work at it's full potential. Therefore I am running a set of Tear-Drop mufflers (straight pipes w/o baffles). Anyone else heard this conflict? I purchased the Bella Corse kit...I like the addition of certain items that are not included in the other kits on the market for the same price (i.e.- SS intake clamps, SS Carb screw kit, and I like the adjustable turn buckle carb brace.). I did replace the crankcase filter (Auto parts store) with one that almost matches the pod filters exact!! It looks real sharp...
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03-12-2007
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SuperSport Favorite Bike: 02 Bonneville
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Dallas, Texas USA
Posts: 1,016 Other Motorcycle: 1972 Honda CL450 Scrambler
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rstover...I just installed the NARK this past weekend and it came with good instructions and pictures. You will need a jack (or something that will lift the bike) because the rear shocks need to be disconnected since the airbox pulls out towards the back to clear the frame.
Total time about 3-4 hours (includes a couple of cigars and cups of coffee). I've got the Sprint teardrops and thruxton needle so my kit came with 42 pilots and 150 mains.
I plan on getting the bike dyno'ed possible next weekend to see if the NARK made much of a difference from the Uni filter / bellmouth set up I had before.
Shorty
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03-12-2007
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250 Grand Prix
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 111
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In truth, the Air Box removal & installation doesn't even need any instructions. I did the BellaCorse version over the weekend & it is really straight forward. I was afraid to order the kit because removing the side panels & looking at all the garbage attached to the stock box really made me uneasy. I had to buy a Torx bit set, as the set I had lacked the correct size to remove the rear fender. (Triumph really likes to use the thread-lock!) I bought Sears # 46703. I removed & replaced the box & fender in about 45 minutes, removed & replaced the stock mufflers with EMGO's in about 30 minutes. Since I'd had bad luck in the past with stripping screws on float bowels, I took my carbs off & took 'em to the dealer to re-jet, swap the Phillips screws for the included Allen style, & replace the 'D' screws with the thumb screws. It cost me one labor hour with the dealer, (some here may think me a poseur but I'm glad I did it that way.) I Put the carbs back on Saturday & it runs SUPER!! No issues whatsoever, runs just as well & reliably as stock, (road about 100 miles over the weekend, & in to work today) but quicker & LOUDER. :-D I'm by no way telling anyone which they should buy, I'm sure all the kits are great, I just sat on the fence debating my ability to get it done & not screw anything up & sacrifice the reliability, ride-ability & enjoyment of my bike. Go ahead & do it, you won't be disappointed!
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03-12-2007
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SuperSport Favorite Bike: 1972 Suzuki TM 250
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Location: Millstadt, IL USA
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I did the air-box cut up method. No fender,shock removal needed, just remove the side covers and cut away. Leaving a really handy tool/storage box. Total cost about $100.00 and most of that because I went with the K&N pods instead of the Uni pods.
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03-12-2007
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World SuperBike
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Willingboro, NJ
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If you undo the shocks, then jack the bike up high, cant you take the box out the back without even removing the fender? I saw this done on a speedmaster, I think it would work on a bonny also
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03-12-2007
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250 Grand Prix
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 111
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I'd just remove the rear fender. I thought about that as well but it would be so cranked up in the air I thought it would be way too precarious. Fender removal was quick & easy...
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03-12-2007
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World SuperBike
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Willingboro, NJ
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if you strap the bike to the lift you can go as high as she'll go. its safer anyhow
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03-12-2007
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SuperBike Favorite Bike: 03 T100 989
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: richmond va
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i just did a bc this weekend was very easy .I bought a jack from sears for 69.00 great buy for the money you need to take fender off but its easy.i got tors on my 2003 i think you need around 138 mains and 42 polit jets i put dyno jet needles and springs in ended up 4th slot from top on neddle .WOW it realy woke bike up
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03-13-2007
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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The ARKs are similar and simple to install. I chose the NARK because IMHO it had a better carb brace. BellaCorse may have changed theirs but when I looked they supplied a turnbuckle type brace, New Bonneville have a straight forward aluminium or steel brace that's simple to fit, wont vibrate loose and works. That was the decider for me.
As for TORS. Think about other aftermarket pipes if you're not committed. TORS seem to lack performance, but maybe quieter.
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