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08-07-2006
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The allen key provided by Triumph can be rigged to use as a makeshift clutch lever.
Just something to keep in mind should you happen to do something real stupid and lay your bike down after stopping in a gravel lot.
On a side note:
If you did happen to do such a foolish thing would you know of a source (other than a dealer) for a clutch lever assembly, shifter, left side TOR and crankcase cover for an '04 Thruxton? Also, if the bike ran on its side for 3-4 seconds would any internal damage have been done, and what would you look for? And how'bout if while trying to rig the clutch lever you over extended the clutch lifter to the point that it "stuck" several times but you were able to kick it back into position and everything seemed to work fine, would you have caused any damage?
Finally, even though you'd be pissed that you damaged your bike and rendered it unridable until fixed, and your pride has sunk to a new low, wouldn't you be at least slightly relieved that you had a great resource like triumphrat.net and all its knowledgeable and forthcoming memebers to seek advice from?
Please help! (hypothetically)
[ This message was edited by: Kstrhypes on 2006-08-07 09:42 ]
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08-07-2006
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Sorry to hear of your accident. Hoep you are OK. Re internal damage - if the gear shift took a real battering, it might have bent the selector shaft. Only way to tell is to try changing gear! If it's stiff or clunky you might have a problem. Not a big deal though - but takes a bit of stripping down to replace and gearboxes are one of those things where the unwary often end up with parts left over! I'm assuming if you snapped the clutch level the damage is on the left....
You sometimes see Bonnie cases on EBay when someone has swapped themn out for chrome ones - though not sure if the Thruxton are exactly the same as the std ones. Worth checking the part numbers on the Triumph accesories site.
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08-07-2006
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What do you mean, my accident? We're talking purely in hypotheticals. :wink:
Transmission seems to shift ok, but the shifter itself is mangled.
I'm more concerned (or at least I would be) with internal motor damage from running while not upright (oil starvation, etc.)
Thanks
Oh and by the way, if this did happen to me, other than a bruised ego I'd be okay. Thanks for asking
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08-07-2006
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I'm fairly certain that you can use a generic lever to replace your "tool kit" .Big ups to you for ingenuity and field engineering.I would not worry about internal damage from running on it's side for a few seconds......ask me how I know :hammer:
[ This message was edited by: meatwagon on 2006-08-07 10:17 ]
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08-07-2006
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Quote:
On 2006-08-07 10:14, meatwagon wrote:
I'm fairly certain that you can use a generic lever to replace your "tool kit" .Big ups to you for ingenuity and field engineering.I would not worry about internal damage from running on it's side for a few seconds......ask me how I know :hammer:
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Thanks for the props. It's funny what you can come up with given an hour or so of desperation :-D
I'll have to give it a second look. But I'm pretty certain that not only the lever itself, but the mount/pivot thing (hope thats not too technical) thats clamped to the bars is also damaged.
[ This message was edited by: Kstrhypes on 2006-08-07 13:14 ]
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08-09-2006
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Can anyone else offer nay input/advice?
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08-09-2006
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It coould be "Hypothetically" a good reason to switch to Rear sets :>
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08-09-2006
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I would say your clutch should be fine. With your shifter, I would check your shifter spline to be sure it is not bent. Usually an oil leak will make that a no brainer. Check your crankcase for gas in the oil. Do this before you run the engine. Diluted oil will wash the oil lining away on your cylinder bore and quickly wear your oil rings on the pistons....That would be the only concern I would have for the oil. I think the engine would be fine running on its side for a while... Mine does this everytime I am cornering!!!  The Bonneville has two oil pumps, so there is plenty of sloshing around in there. I would check your fork tubes with a straight edge to see if any bending occured. A lot of damage can happen at a very low speed. Keep us posted.
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08-10-2006
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Thanks! No oil leak around the shaft so I guess I'm ok on that end. I didn't think to check the forks, thats a good idea. I'm unclear as to how fuel might have gotten into the oil. Can you elaborate?
Thanks again!
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08-11-2006
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FWIW.........hypothetically speaking, of course........a guy I know dropped his beloved Thruxton on it's left side. Apparently it was a brain fart and he forgot to put the sidestand down BEFORE getting off the bike. Anyhoo.....long story short, the clutch lever was busted, a good excuse to buy some Pazzo Racing levers, he thought. But what to do until the new levers arrived? He went to a multi-brand dealer and found an el-cheapo Kawasaki lever that fit perfectly. So, if you ever did any damage to your levers you can always find some other OEM parts that will getcha back on the road. It worked for me...er, him, the guy I know.
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