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12-09-2012, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Forchetto
If you can open the program it means that your PC already has NETframework installed correctly, I think. The only hurdle left is the cable driver. The ones that come with the cable or the one that windows will insist on loading won't work. It has to be the driver recommended on the stickies here or in TuneECU site.
Just for laughs download a sample tune from the site, say 20187 which is the standard tune for bikes of my vintage, open it in TuneECU and see all those numbers, airflow, ignition timing curves, etc pop up. It's a bit frightening at first to realise how easy it is to change those figures (and indeed cock everything up...)  .
But, as I've said, you can limit things to the Test and diagnostic screens if you want.
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I had a look, it's quite frightening lol
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12-09-2012, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotboppincat
I had a look, it's quite frightening lol
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There are some precautions you should take (in my opinion) when working with TuneECU. I'm not writing this to frighten you further, just a bit of sensible advice.
1 - Before you do anything read your map into TuneECU (takes about 20 minutes if you haven't already got a map read up in there) and then save it to the laptop hard drive. Then you can put it back if you cock anything up.
2 - Because of the Bonnie's interlock system which disables the starter if the battery voltage falls below about 12.5v, I connect one of those jump starts and leave it connected the whole time I'm working on the bike. When working with TuneECU your ignition is on the whole time, and with the Bonnie that means your lights are on too. You can remove Fuse 9 if you want but that disables the starter relay as well. You can also use a fully charged car battery if you don't have a jump start.
3 - If you make any changes, you always need to download the changed map from TuneECU back to your ECU, no matter how small the change. TuneECU does not change the map on the fly. This does not apply to clearing fault codes though.
4 - Whenever you have downloaded a map to your ECU you then have to perform the Reset Adaption procedure. That is documented in the instructions to TuneECU and also on their website.
5 - Forgot to say, power your laptop from the mains, for obvious reasons.
Last edited by Ripper; 12-09-2012 at 08:43 AM.
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12-09-2012, 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ripper
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Originally Posted by Ripper
There are some precautions you should take (in my opinion) when working with TuneECU. I'm not writing this to frighten you further, just a bit of sensible advice.
1 - Before you do anything read your map into TuneECU (takes about 20 minutes if you haven't already got a map read up in there) and then save it to the laptop hard drive. Then you can put it back if you cock anything up.
2 - Because of the Bonnie's interlock system which disables the starter if the battery voltage falls below about 12.5v, I connect one of those jump starts and leave it connected the whole time I'm working on the bike. When working with TuneECU your ignition is on the whole time, and with the Bonnie that means your lights are on too. You can remove Fuse 9 if you want but that disables the starter relay as well. You can also use a fully charged car battery if you don't have a jump start.
3 - If you make any changes, you always need to download the changed map from TuneECU back to your ECU, no matter how small the change. TuneECU does not change the map on the fly. This does not apply to clearing fault codes though.
4 - Whenever you have downloaded a map to your ECU you then have to perform the Reset Adaption procedure. That is documented in the instructions to TuneECU and also on their website.
5 - Forgot to say, power your laptop from the mains, for obvious reasons.
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Cheers for that, I will get that cable.
I won't be touching the mapping, but cheers for all the tips. This bird is under warranty for the next couple of years, so I won't be touching any of the settings, it was just for fault codes, if one popped up I could find out what it was.
But after the warranty has run out I will be able to play....... But I will follow everyones advise, no worries.
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12-09-2012, 10:51 AM
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Kev,
I'm new to TuneECU as well and purchased the cable from LonElec,
http://www.lonelec.co.uk/index.php?m...products_id=32 .
Works perfectly and was recommended in the TuneECU threads.
You will download the correct driver from the support link on the lonelec website.
Lonelec service was great, I highly recommend them. You're taking a chance on ebay.
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2012 Triumph Bonneville T100
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12-09-2012, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotboppincat
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In principle any VAG/VW cable will do but we've found that some don't have a genuine FTDI chipset or are poorly designed and constructed and give no end of trouble. They might connect OK but as soon as the engine is fired the connection frezes or some don't connect at all.
I've tried several, and can only recommend the one from LONELEC UK although I think the one from TTP (Triumph Twin Power) is also OK, as Mike (Pieman) has done lots of work with them.
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12-16-2012, 02:03 AM
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Right, just bought the cable from Lonelec.....just waiting for it to arrive
I have just had the throttle bodies synchronised by my dealer, but reading on the forums this looks fairly simple, so my first thing I am going to try is CHECKING those myself (not adjust just check lol).
Thats my mission.
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12-16-2012, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Canuck_T100
Kev,
I'm new to TuneECU as well and purchased the cable from LonElec,
http://www.lonelec.co.uk/index.php?m...products_id=32 .
Works perfectly and was recommended in the TuneECU threads.
You will download the correct driver from the support link on the lonelec website.
Lonelec service was great, I highly recommend them. You're taking a chance on ebay.
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Forcetto says that the driver off the Tune ECU site is the only one that works. I have a conflict of info here.....I don't want to muck anything up.....any more input on this would be good.
Cheers.
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12-16-2012, 02:09 AM
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Grand Prix 500 Main Motorcycle: 2012 EFI Thruxton 900
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Forchetto
In principle any VAG/VW cable will do but we've found that some don't have a genuine FTDI chipset or are poorly designed and constructed and give no end of trouble. They might connect OK but as soon as the engine is fired the connection frezes or some don't connect at all.
I've tried several, and can only recommend the one from LONELEC UK although I think the one from TTP (Triumph Twin Power) is also OK, as Mike (Pieman) has done lots of work with them.
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Forchetto.....I'm a bit confused here, Canuck_T100 says the driver off the Lonlec website works, but you said the one I need is the one off the TuneECU site......
This is new territory for me. Could you give some more advice on this please?
Thanks.
Cat
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12-16-2012, 02:17 AM
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Surely there is really no need to keep rehearsing the installation procedures when they are explicitly given on the TuneECU website: http://www.tomhamburg.net/TuneECU_En/install1.html
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