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12-06-2012, 01:58 AM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 2012 T100
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Should I have asked my dealer to do the first service?
Hello,
My bike is nearly new and I decided to do the services myself. I bought the tools, the Haynes manual, read this forum regularly. I'm an okay DYI-man but I wouldn't myself an expert mechanics, in fact this is my first bike and I'm rather novice.
Anyway came 1000 km I did the the oil change, checked everything as prescribed by the user's manual, fixed that odd rattling noise I kept hearing in the right exhaust (turned out there was a small metallic piece loose in the can), even plugged in TuneECU to check for error codes... All good.
But now I have a doubt: do the dealers check anything else? Something that an unexperienced mechanics would easily miss? Everything seems okay for now but I wouldn't want to discover a serious problem 6 months down the track and have the guarantee refused to me because it wasn't picked up during the first service.
What do you think?
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12-06-2012, 02:30 AM
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As long as you checked everything that's meant to be checked on first service, you'll be fine. You've probably done a more thorough, caring jobs than they would have done, as the bike means a lot more to you than it does to them..
I would go over it and check EVERY bolt and fastener, just to make sure none of them are loose. Just to be sure nothing falls off. :-) Or don't, and just hope the factory put it together right in the first place. :-)
Congrats on the new bike, and well done for doing the service yourself....
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12-06-2012, 05:18 AM
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One possible issue you might have is if a fault develops within the guarantee period. Dealers often won't undertake guarantee work unless they've done the servicing.
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12-06-2012, 06:35 AM
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nah, personally I'd rather give the bike the love and attention it deserves rather than let a stranger tinker
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12-06-2012, 08:24 AM
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World SuperBike Main Motorcycle: 05 T100
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denbow
One possible issue you might have is if a fault develops within the guarantee period. Dealers often won't undertake guarantee work unless they've done the servicing.
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They would possibly get away with that (and would certainly try) here in the UK, although there is some EU legislation that supposedly prevents this if you can show that the servicing has been carried out to the manufacturers schedule and standard, but I wouldn't count on it if you've done the work yourself. In the US they have seemingly good legislation to prevent them using this get-out trick if you have stuff like receipts for parts even if you've done the work yourself, but I've no idea what consumer rights are like in New Zealand where the OP is.
I suspect that most dealers would just change the oil and filter and I wouldn't trust them to have checked all the items on Triumph's service schedule. I doubt very much they would pick up on anything likely to cause a problem in the future that wouldn't be apparent to most owners doing the job (more diligently) by the book themselves. These are relatively simple bikes to work on.
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Last edited by PAAS; 12-06-2012 at 08:31 AM.
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12-06-2012, 04:04 PM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 2012 T100
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Thank's guys, I guess I'm taking a small risk regarding guarantee but hey it's so much more fun this way.
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12-06-2012, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denbow
One possible issue you might have is if a fault develops within the guarantee period. Dealers often won't undertake guarantee work unless they've done the servicing.
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In the US, this is illegal. Any dealer must perform warranty work.
The owner is responsible for showing that the required service was done, and that the warrantied repair has no connection to anything the owner did wrong or modified.
For example, doing your own oil change does not void the warranty for an electrical problem, but changing wheel rims might void the warranty for a broken spoke.
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Last edited by Baltobonneville; 12-07-2012 at 09:30 PM.
Reason: clarification
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12-06-2012, 07:03 PM
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The dreaded warranty!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jihema
Hello,
My bike is nearly new and I decided to do the services myself. I bought the tools, the Haynes manual, read this forum regularly. I'm an okay DYI-man but I wouldn't myself an expert mechanics, in fact this is my first bike and I'm rather novice.
Anyway came 1000 km I did the the oil change, checked everything as prescribed by the user's manual, fixed that odd rattling noise I kept hearing in the right exhaust (turned out there was a small metallic piece loose in the can), even plugged in TuneECU to check for error codes... All good.
But now I have a doubt: do the dealers check anything else? Something that an unexperienced mechanics would easily miss? Everything seems okay for now but I wouldn't want to discover a serious problem 6 months down the track and have the guarantee refused to me because it wasn't picked up during the first service.
What do you think?
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You will have covered everything and probably well. The only thing without a stamp and it doesnt have to be triiumph but an accredited M/C workshop. You will possibly void certain aspects of warranty.
Warranty is a funny thing if the motor blew up, depending on the supplier they might well refuse any liability. Of course if the failure was due to a manufacturing defect, then that would be different. Mind if they were being ---- then that might be up to you to prove, can you see $$$.
The plus side is that modern gear is so reliable that issues are far apart.
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12-06-2012, 08:49 PM
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I took my 2012 T-100 in for the first service and my dealer refused to stamp the warranty book. Said they did not do that.
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12-06-2012, 10:49 PM
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I had the very first 800 Kilometer service done at the dealer as it would protect the warranty until the next service was due at 10,000 kilometers. (the dealer did a lousy job of it BTW)
my logic being that anything that goes drastically wrong is likely to occur within the first few thousand kilometers and therefore the dealer would be obliged to fix.
after 10,000 Kilometers I forfeited the warranty and do all the servicing myself
NZ would be the same as Australia. the warranty is void unless the dealer does it
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