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12-02-2012, 02:41 AM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 2008 Bonneville
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Rear Brakes Stopped Working
So I had a funny one today whilst riding through heavy traffic for about 6kms. It was stop start and tight so I rode the read brake for a bit, however after a while it stopped working! Worth mentioning it was also around 34 degrees out.
If I pressed the brake I could push the lever all the way down with no resistance at all.
After that I stopped filtering and just used my front brake, after another 20 min the rear brake comes back to life and works again.
Whats the deal? A 2008 Bonneville doesn't have electronic brakes?
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12-02-2012, 03:49 AM
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Most likely moisture of possilby air in the brake fluid. Moisture (water) is absorbed into the fluid and lowers the boiling point of the fluid creating vapour bubbles which are compressible and either gives more lever movement or stop the brakes working completely when they get hot. Time for fluid replacement, Ment to be replaced every couple of years.
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12-02-2012, 08:41 AM
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You may have had the rear master cylinder piston hang up due to corrosion. Probably not the case; but, it's what happened to my '79 Bonneville.
As a precaution, I would flush the brake fluid and bleed the brakes both front and rear.
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12-02-2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by norton74
You may have had the rear master cylinder piston hang up due to corrosion. Probably not the case; but, it's what happened to my '79 Bonneville.
As a precaution, I would flush the brake fluid and bleed the brakes both front and rear.
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You are on the right track. The M/C probably experienced a "by-pass" due to an internal cup sealing or check valve issue. Hence the intermittent workings... Flushing can help if the system's fluid is degraded, contaminated or has moisture etc. But once it happens it usually only gets worse and happens more often. I would cut to the chase and replace the M/C flush the fluid and call it a day...
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12-02-2012, 04:50 PM
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Sounds like boiling brake fluid to me too. Has it ever been changed? As Plodalong said, it should be changed every 2 years as a matter of course irrespective of mileage. Try the simple (and cheap) stuff first, before making it more complicated than it probably is.
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12-02-2012, 04:53 PM
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Yup, spend a couple quid (dollars, whatever) on fluid, rather than hundreds (or whatever they cost) on new parts...
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12-02-2012, 05:16 PM
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with the amount of rain and humidity they get in Brisbane I'm betting moisture in the brake fluid as plodalong says. change the fluid on both brakes
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12-03-2012, 04:32 AM
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I'm gona roll with brake fluid as first course. I didn't get any service history with the bike, although I know some things have been done, this isn't one of them.
It's just annoying as I was planning on doing it along with the pads in a couple of weeks, but haven't sourced the pads... anyone know where I can get some pads from quickly without paying premium prices?
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12-03-2012, 04:38 AM
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On a 2008 I would also check your rear pads - they tend to wear out.
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12-03-2012, 06:22 AM
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rear pads are *fine* at the mo - this isn't the issue in this case.
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