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Twins Technical Talk Technical Talk for Hinckley Triumph Twins: Bonneville, T100, Speedmaster, America, Thruxton, and Scrambler.

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Old 11-27-2012, 04:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes I have had an intermittent problem of engine cutting out suddenly and then failing to start only to fire up some time later. I am pretty sure now that the problem is bad contact in the igniter plug. I am going to investigate clearance between the plug and the seat pan. If it is too close I will relieve the seat pan to provide more clearance. I will report back in due course.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Lucky, the issue with your bike stalling at the red light is eerily familiar of my issue. Before you tear into the alternator cover, in addition to the air mixture screw rebuild kit, try blowing out the air mixture screw and pilot jet holes with carb cleaner and compressed air like I suggested. Also, have you had your carburetors balanced recently?

The symptoms sound more like an air/fuel ratio issue than an electrical/ignition problem.

Three Carburetor Problems:

1) Rich Mixture means the carburetor is delivering too much gasoline. Typical symptoms of a rich mixture are:

Poor fuel economy

Sluggish acceleration

Choke not needed from cold starts

Sooty or black spark plugs

Sooty or black muffler end pipes

Strong smell of gasoline when machine is at idle

Uneven running (will often slow from regular idle rpm's and stop)

2) Lean Mixtures means the carburetor is delivering too much air. Typical symptoms of a lean mixture are:

Backfires as the throttle is closed (primarily during coast-downs)

Lurching acceleration

White or light grey spark plugs

Requires excessive amounts of choke to run/start

White or light grey muffler end pipes

Bluing (on chrome systems) of the exhaust header down-pipes

3) Incorrect Adjustment applies to carburetors that have incorrect adjustment of the air/fuel screw and the balance between two or more carburetors - where fitted. Incorrect adjustment can produce any of the previously noted symptoms. On multi-cylinder machines, with separate carburetors for each cylinder, the following symptoms are typical of an adjustment problem:

Poor overall performance

Rattling sounds from the clutch

Engine tends to stall easily

Erratic acceleration

Poor fuel economy

Misfires and/or backfires

Edit: I also found this to be very beneficial for understanding how each of the different components of the carb work. I was completely clueless.

http://www.duncanracing.com/TechCent...arbJetting.pdf
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Good reference blues.

I think I need to sort out any leaks on this bike first like you have advised me. New o-rings and mixture screws are going on this weekend followed by new rubber intake boots and stainless clamps.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm thinking I need to do this more and more. Bike just died on my at a stoplight today. Second time this has happened.
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I'm worried it's an ignitor problem. That's a $250 problem right there and I'm not quite ready to confront it haha!

I guess I should just go for a procom unit.
If it runs well until it warms up and then quits, try the ignition coil first. Might save you a bunch of dough-re-mi.
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