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11-23-2012, 12:46 AM
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How lean will I be running?
I've got an EFI Scrambler and I'm thinking about pulling the snorkel and baffle. Obviously, this is going to make me run a bit leaner. If I do this, should I stop riding until I get the new tune or will it be alright to ride for short trips (to and from work, etc.)?
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11-23-2012, 01:03 AM
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It will run quite a bit leaner. On carbed bikes, as a comparison, snorkel and restrictor plate removal means increasing main jet size by 5 points.
Read the post linked to below. Pieman comments on doing just that on EFI bikes.
http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-tech...ml#post2376399
In normal day to day running you'll be OK until such time as it can be re-mapped.
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11-23-2012, 10:36 AM
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If you were to do away with the Air Injection at the same time, you might not be running as lean; the two changes would sort of offset each other.
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11-23-2012, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy13
If you were to do away with the Air Injection at the same time, you might not be running as lean; the two changes would sort of offset each other.
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Apart from the fact the the AI injects air into the exhaust (and then only under specific conditions) so won't affect the AFR in the cylinder..
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11-23-2012, 02:47 PM
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Thanks Forchetto. Some days I long for the ease that came with a good old carb. Luckily winter is getting into full swing here so I'm not planning on making any long rides so I think I'll go ahead and pull that stuff today.
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11-23-2012, 04:43 PM
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AI removal will not impact combustion AFR;removal will effect (reduce) exhaust popping in non-cat exhaust
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11-23-2012, 09:16 PM
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Y'all are correct, my mistake. What I meant to say is removing the AI will help the engine run a bit cooler, thus allieviating some of the heat buildup from a leaner mixture.
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11-24-2012, 12:49 PM
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Yeah, I shoved a marble into the AI hose the week after I got the bike (what a huge difference that makes in the throttle).
As an update, I pulled the baffle and snorkel and love the extra intake sound. I still need to do the adaptive reset, but so far I like it.
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11-25-2012, 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by potato_peeler
As an update, I pulled the baffle and snorkel and love the extra intake sound. I still need to do the adaptive reset, but so far I like it.
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It does sound way nicer once removed. It is a lot throatier. I've been running mine without the snorkel for a few weeks. I actually feel like the bike got a little hotter, but its so cold here I can't really tell (although getting cool makes more sense with the leaner mix). I am planning a remap soon. To answer your question though: take it off and ride.
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