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Twins Technical Talk Technical Talk for Hinckley Triumph Twins: Bonneville, T100, Speedmaster, America, Thruxton, and Scrambler.

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Old 11-29-2012, 11:30 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Dealer has been on the phone, gotta collect the Thrux tomorrow morning.

They reckon they have fixed it.....it was either the selector drum or the forks. They changed both, so I suppose I will never know exactly which one it was. I will ask to have a look at the old bits tomorrow.

I wait with baited breath.........

I miss the Thrux, the Bonny is a different beast to ride. Similar, but not the same.

Must be the short bars and riding position, as there isn't that much difference beyond the little bit of extra power.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:59 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Thats great lets hope many miles of untroubled riding...YesI love the Thruxton I have done some head work on it but otherwise its stock apart from a few GeGaws even stock pipes I like stealth! been there and done noisey pipes The wifes Bonnie is entirely different but I like both.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:51 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Gearbox seems to be OK......I saw the selector drum and forks (aren't they tiny!), but couldn't see anything wrong with them.

On the run home I discovered she is 'Hunting' very slightly......if you are doing 60 ish (thats a very loose term, 60 ISH....... :0) ) with the throttle as far shut as she will allow to cruise, it sort of seems to hunt a bit on one cylinder, as if one cylinder is dragging slightly intermittently.

I will see how I get on, I must admit it is bloomin' cold today, and it may settle down after being as disturbed as it was.

I noticed there is very little slack in the throttle cable now compared to before.

I will investigate that tomorrow and slacken off the cable a touch. It may be that causing the hunting. The throttle cable would have been removed when they took the engine out.

I will check to make sure the throttle hits the stop when closed fully. Apart from that they did a good job, and have sorted me a good deal on the off road silencers when I want them fitted after Christmas.

Time to warm up, I am chilled through after cleaning their Bonny, riding a 40 mile round trip, and then cleaning the Thrux when I got home!

Time for a cuppa.

Cheers for your input everybody.

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Old 11-30-2012, 02:48 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Great thats good news.....Don't know about the hunting your bikes injected only know my carbs my bikes run with no throttle slack as the cables are push-pull and turning the bars alters the Revs vary little unless you are doing a multi-point turn normal riding you dont turn the bars that much...I cant ride with so much slack as the bikes in the showrooms some have as much as 1/4" .....Yes it was cold yesterday -6c when I went for my M.O.T. had trouble picking a dry line inbetween the ice when I got to the Dealer at 11 o clock I was the only bike (MUG)
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Old 11-30-2012, 06:09 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Great thats good news.....Don't know about the hunting your bikes injected only know my carbs my bikes run with no throttle slack as the cables are push-pull and turning the bars alters the Revs vary little unless you are doing a multi-point turn normal riding you dont turn the bars that much...I cant ride with so much slack as the bikes in the showrooms some have as much as 1/4" .....Yes it was cold yesterday -6c when I went for my M.O.T. had trouble picking a dry line inbetween the ice when I got to the Dealer at 11 o clock I was the only bike (MUG)
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Yeah but I bet it felt good that you were a REAL bad-ass biker, braving the elements lol. I thought I was close to death on the dual carriageway I was so cold. I was forced to sit behind an HGV, they throw out some heat!

Freezing fog is a real sod.....in my (earlier) youth I had long hair, starched out at right angles from my lid as it froze like that. with frozen eyelashes with bits of ice in them!

My mate won't come out in the rain, he nearly cries if it rains when we are out. He has a Jitsa and it is all carefully polished plastic!


My Thrux is my main vehicle, so I just have to clean it a lot! Its my stupid fault, I should have bought a car with the money instead........

My cables have next to no slack, I reckon that could be the problem.

I will look in the morning (as long as it isn't raining of course!!!!!).

I also have to wax and lubricate!
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:27 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Sorry the bikes are a hobby, now retired and in my 70s now, spent most of my time commuting to work in London in all weathers never once missed a day deep snow and all never liked the rain though...Once raced at Brands Hatch in the late 50s on new years day they had to send out the public onto the track to clear it of frost!!! Now I have paid money for the bikes and I keep them showroom so when the time comes they will sell...Its my Pension...Sad aint it.....T.U.D.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:24 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Thats not sad Dave, thats a good plan. I'm in my mid 40's, but have nothing saved for retirement. I spent from 16 to 31 on bikes, riding to work whatever the weather, through snow storms and freezing rain. No fun. Then I got a car, and this is my first bike for 14 years, I just realised how cold you actually get, I had forgotten.

I'm now looking at a power socket for those heated jackets and gloves. What's happening to me!!!!! I used to take the piss out of people that had heated grips when I was a teenager lol. Now look at me! Modern fabrics like Gore-Tex have made all the difference, my boots don't leak any more and my gloves are awesome, that all helps matters.

I decided to keep the Thruxton as long as I can, if I stop riding it at any point I will restore her to 'as new' condition.

My Uncle still has the Matchless he used when he was in his 20's (back in the 60's) when he was courting his Wife. He restored it to concours back in the 80's and it is still to this day in his garage under blankets. He is now thinking of selling it, I am trying to think of a way to buy it off him! I'm skint now I bought the Thrux!

I'm gonna brave the frost this morning and go get me and the Wife a breakfast.
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I found the cause of the irregular running.......

I went to take her out this morning, and as I tried to manouver her in a tight radius the engine cut out!

I restarted, thinking it was just cold, moved the handlebars to the left, and it did it again.....

I restarted, wiggled the wiring loom where it comes out from underneath the petrol tank, and it cut out again.......

Then the engine management light came on.....

I looked in the headlight to make sure none of the block connectors were loose in there, but they all seemed OK. I didn't disconnect any, just made sure they were all fully home.....nothing amiss there.

I bet it has a broken wire in the loom in between the petrol tank and the headlight, where the loom bends near the headstock.

This is unbelieveable!

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I really feel for you. Perhaps it's nothing more than a coil wire dislodged during the engine removal at the dealers.

We've had a couple of instances on new bikes where the only solution to an electrical problem was complete wiring loom replacement.

Wiring looms are mostly subcontracted out to Chinese home workers. They often have to buy their own wire and rather than waste odd lengths they make poor joints that are then hidden by the protective tape and sleeving.

I'm not saying that's what Triumph do, but I found one such joint in my late 70's Honda, in exactly the same place as yours...
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Check any of the conections to the coils and any on the engine it might be the loom is pulling on these.... cant believe its a broken wire.....Your brave it has warmed up here and raining....Wheedle the Matchless out of the uncle he dosent need it...I have an Ariel 500 single had it 42 years now was my transport for most of that time, not original all alloy comp motor pretty quick for its age...crap brakes though....
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