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11-02-2012, 01:27 PM
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ECU Selection Advice
Hi all,
Ive done lots of searches and reading. I've tagged and favorited a lot of different pages regarding both TTP and TuneECU. I think i understand how to use it but i want to make sure i get the right tune.
I will at some point buy a nice tune from TTP, but for the time being, i have 2 major projects in the works and need to save a little scratch.
What do you who have used them think of the free TuneECU maps?
How do i accuratly select a tune?
There just seams to be a lot of them to pick from and i don't want to damage my bike. I've read somewhere that if not used properly, TuneECU can damage you engine?
Thoughts? and thanks for your time and help.
Micah.
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11-02-2012, 01:55 PM
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Email TTP with your exact setup and they will help you select the right map. They have been very helpful any time I've had a question.
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11-02-2012, 02:22 PM
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Hi micah,
The maps from Tuneecu are fine , but they don't take into acount all the modifications you are doing to the bike such as restriction plate, air filter, snorckel, O2 sensors, etc...
You can allways try the custom map for twins which isn't bad .
The best thing you can do is get a TTP map , but that is going to cost you money , they are not that expensive but you have to know which way you going because if you do some other mods , youl'll have to buy a new tune. (my case)
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11-02-2012, 02:27 PM
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that's kind of what i'm getting at. I will buy a TTP tune when it's all said and done, but for now i was hoping there was a free "not as good", decent map available from TuneECU that could get me by until i can afford the Right custom map. I suppose i can have Triumph dealer tune it again, but they might be apposed to doing so since i will have so much custom stuff done to it.
On the mods note, any one know where i can get the O2 delete kit? I've already done the AI delete.
Can i use TuneECU to simply turn off the AI and O2 sensors without changing my A/F and EFI mapping?
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11-02-2012, 02:47 PM
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i think you should get the ODB2 cable to use on Tuneecu , you'll still find some use later.
For us to answer what map is best for you (until TTP) we have to know your setting, exhaust, odometer, and the rest i was talking on before.
For the O2 sensors it's the same size as the AI , 12 X 125 as i recall. You can find them for cheap in car centers , those bolts are used for nissan car oil change. (sorry don't know exact term)
And Yes you can use Tuneecu to turn off the O2 sensors but you have to physicaly take them off first.
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11-02-2012, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WindTherapy
On the mods note, any one know where i can get the O2 delete kit? I've already done the AI delete.
Can i use TuneECU to simply turn off the AI and O2 sensors without changing my A/F and EFI mapping?
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TTP has a O2 removal kit here:
http://www.triumphtwinpower.com/o2-s...emoval-kit.php
You can find your own. The threads are M12 x 1.25 shortened to 10 mm thread length, and fitted with 12mm copper sealing washers. However M12 bolts have huge hexagon heads that are a bit unsightly. You could find some Stainless allen heads that are not too bad.
The AI removal hardware is the same thread, so you could use one of those kits as well.
You can use TuneECU to turn off the AI and O2 sensors without doing any other changes to the mapping.
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11-02-2012, 03:42 PM
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Wonderful. I'll keep you guys posted. Hopefull some one will know of a tune i can use to get me buy until i have the Box removed and have the cash for the Tune from TTP. Cause that's really what i want. Maybe Christmas. haha.
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11-03-2012, 09:14 AM
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What, if anything, have you done to modify your engine? The maps on TuneECU for Thruxtons are all factory tunes except for the one custom. The tune you choose would be tied to whether or not you have an LCD or analog odometer and then the modifications, if any you've made. If your engine is completely stock, changing the map is neither necessary nor will it give much of a performance boost. The factory tunes on TuneECU are pretty much limited to addressing aftermarket exhausts (TORS or Arrow either 2 into 2 or 2 into 1) and don't address any induction side changes.
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Originally Posted by WindTherapy
Hi all,
Ive done lots of searches and reading. I've tagged and favorited a lot of different pages regarding both TTP and TuneECU. I think i understand how to use it but i want to make sure i get the right tune.
I will at some point buy a nice tune from TTP, but for the time being, i have 2 major projects in the works and need to save a little scratch.
What do you who have used them think of the free TuneECU maps?
How do i accuratly select a tune?
There just seams to be a lot of them to pick from and i don't want to damage my bike. I've read somewhere that if not used properly, TuneECU can damage you engine?
Thoughts? and thanks for your time and help.
Micah.
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Last edited by bluesman77; 11-03-2012 at 01:17 PM.
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11-03-2012, 11:20 AM
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isn't it what i just said ?
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11-03-2012, 11:56 AM
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;Mod's to this point include
Lossa Stubby Pipes
AI delete
Snorkel delete
Future mods:
Airbox delete
02 delete
3051 Miles on a digital odometer.
Now, my plan was to do the TTP Tune a ways after the Airbox delet and 02 delete simply for cost savings, but if TuneECU tunes wont help me then i'll wait to do the Airbox Delete until i've saved enough to do it all at once.
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