Triumphrat

Marlin.45 · 10-24-2012, 11:05 AM

I have had my 2009/2010 from new and it was fitted with the Datatool (3?) from the options list then, so far, it has never played up while on the road.

Roll around to recent months and I have noted that when washing the bike (hose or watering can - not a pressure washer) the alarm will either not set (when previously disarmed) or goes off (if it is armed). If I take the headlight apart or remove the seat while these problems occur then there is no real sign of water in those areas - so the reason for these issues is unknown to me.

Anyone else have similar issues?

Also I noted that there are two pairs of connections unused on the Datatool (pic below). Anyone know what these may be?

Cheers,
Paul

grzegorz · 10-24-2012, 12:32 PM

my experience with data tool alarm is; never ever again this alarm near my bike

Marlin.45 · 10-25-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by grzegorz

my experience with data tool alarm is; never ever again this alarm near my bike

I did have the earlier Datatool 2 on my previous T-Bird Sport and that was a PITA. Leave it near a cell phone transmitter and 50% of the time the RF screwed the synching when arming the damn thing. Left me stranded many a time.

To be fair I have never had that issue with the S4....yet

Marlin.45 · 10-26-2012, 03:53 PM

Well after two days of a 70 mile commute and extreme road grime the Scram needed another wash...... so roll on more Datatool issues?

I very lightly showered the bike from above at around the pressure you would get from a rose on a household watering can. All the usual issues happened again but this time it took a good hour for the system to stop alarming and reset - even after a good 5 mile blat and up to 70mph around the block to blow the water out and dry anything that needed it.

I will take another look at it tomorrow but the relay I can hear clicking when the system is trying to arm is definitely within the Datatool unit (seat is off and the seat switch is bypassed). It will not be long before I start investigating how to remove this thing as it will make very little difference to the insurance cost on a bike like this

Also note that this is a Datatool S4 not a 3 as I stated in the initial post....duuuuugh.

grzegorz · 10-26-2012, 06:49 PM

remowe it? have you got original alarm box? there should be blanking plug(with two bridged wires), unplug from harness, plug blanking plug job done.....that how it works with older alarms but should be the same with this one

Marlin.45 · 10-30-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by grzegorz

remowe it? have you got original alarm box? there should be blanking plug(with two bridged wires), unplug from harness, plug blanking plug job done.....that how it works with older alarms but should be the same with this one

Yes I probably will if I cannot locate the 'fault'. I don't have the blanking plug but I can either get one from my local Triumph dealer or get one made up to do the job.

Ideally I would like to fix the problem with the S4 ....if it is doable?

Marlin.45 · 11-10-2012, 07:40 AM

Well I was right in thinking the fault is a symptom of something that will get worse. Rode the bike home from work yesterday in the dry, and put it in the garage...today it has decided to keep going off randomly!

I have now pulled the alarm so the locality can have some peace and I can clean the bike without getting an earfull!

Triumph insist I must have sent the blanking plug to Datatool when it was fitted. Aaaahhh, no I didn't as the dealer already had it fitted to the bike as part of that package, and for the life of me I can't remember sending one off. Though, despite the dealer insistance that I must have sent it off (as everyone does) was blown to shreds when he said we have a 'few of those blank lying in the workshop'.

Anyone know the connection details for the two links and I will get the plug modded to stop this PITA? As the dealer is 30 miles from me and won't mail any of his 'spare' ones.

Scram now off the road until I get this plug fitted. Resorting to the DRZ400 on nobblies for now.

grzegorz · 11-10-2012, 03:28 PM

bridged pins 1-2 and 3-5

Marlin.45 · 11-11-2012, 06:57 PM

Cheers G

Marlin.45 · 11-12-2012, 11:17 AM

Blank now installed and the Scram starts and runs. Result!!!!

Next issue is I have found out the Datatool S4 comes with 3 year warranty from first install. It is within that period by 3 months

Datatool don't want to deal direct and want everything to go via the dealer. Let's see what they say as the bike is out of the 2 year Triumph warranty and the Datatool warranty I doubt includes the dealer labour? I will give them a bell.