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06-01-2012, 08:36 PM
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SuperStock Main Motorcycle: 2012 Bonneville T100
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Rockwood TN
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20 minute auto-tune results
Performed the auto tune this evening on my 2012 T100.
Mileage: 475
Bone Stock, AI still in place.
I had a hand held leaf blower handy to keep the engine nice and cool.
After the 20 minutes I let the bike cool down for about 15 minutes then took it for a spin around the neighborhood.
Prognosis: Throttle is still snatchy and don't notice anything different about the ride.
At least now I know anyway. I don't have any intentions of removing the AI while I am still under warranty however I may do the old marble trick to temporarily disable it.
I guess it is just hit or miss whether the 20 minute tune makes any measurable difference. Or perhaps my bike is already mapped as good as it can get for my altitude conditions.
Last edited by jeiser; 06-01-2012 at 10:36 PM.
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06-01-2012, 08:56 PM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 2012 Bonneville named Mae
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The bike will not "auto-tune". It will do an adaptation. The map is the tuning part, and yes your AI removal will help with throttle snatchiness
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06-01-2012, 09:26 PM
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You may want to break in this machine before messing with it. 475 miles?
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06-01-2012, 11:06 PM
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Temporary disabling the AI will have no adverse effects on the engine, broken in or not. Think about it - How could getting rid of the light-switch throttle response and lowering the temps in the muffler be bad?
I found a 9/16" ball bearing, added a little coating of grease and slid it into the tube. Put a zip-tie on each side and then shoved the tube back in the box. I never even took off the seat. The whole process took 3 minutes. An absolutely noticeable difference.
Btw, my bike has 400 miles on it.
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06-01-2012, 11:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sp115
Temporary disabling the AI will have no adverse effects on the engine, broken in or not. Think about it - How could getting rid of the light-switch throttle response and lowering the temps in the muffler be bad?
I found a 9/16" ball bearing, added a little coating of grease and slid it into the tube. Put a zip-tie on each side and then shoved the tube back in the box. I never even took off the seat. The whole process took 3 minutes. An absolutely noticeable difference.
Btw, my bike has 400 miles on it.
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Thanks....I believe this is the method I intend on doing since I don't really want to rip everything off the bike that has to do with the AI. If I can just disable it then I am fine with that. My pipes are already starting to yellow/blue all the way to the first bend in the pipe coming out of the engine cylinders....I'm mostly fine with it, but if I can keep it from getting worse and perhaps help with the throttle snatchiness I think it is a win.
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11-23-2012, 04:26 PM
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???????? Were do I find ........the old marble trick on here
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11-23-2012, 08:54 PM
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11-23-2012, 11:26 PM
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Be aware with marble trick you get water in the tube where the marble is , then if it's a bearing it will rust.
best is take everything off, some dealers are saying you keep waranty even so.
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11-24-2012, 04:59 AM
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Without carrying out the reset adaption electronically within your ECM, the 20 minute idle will achieve nothing. You've missed out the first part of the process.
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11-24-2012, 08:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dam1
Be aware with marble trick you get water in the tube where the marble is , then if it's a bearing it will rust.
best is take everything off, some dealers are saying you keep waranty even so.
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I checked mine twice over the summer and didn't see any evidence of water, but I still agree with your comment and in fact just ordered the AI kit to get rid of it completely.
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