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04-18-2012, 03:28 PM
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The proper Triumph oil filter wrench costs very little and makes the job as easy as getting water out of a tap  Can't understand why anything else is used.
The official tool is part number T3880313 for the later bikes with the small filter, T3880312 for the earlier bikes. The tightening torque is only 8 to 12 Nm (6 to 8.8 Lbs/ft), little more than hand tight really.
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04-18-2012, 07:21 PM
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If a filter is THAT tight it can only be due to the rubber seal fusing to the metal, as some have suggested. I like to think outside the box, so I'm going to suggest something other than big tools and brute force... How about cutting through the rubber seal with some fishing line, Dacron or perhaps piano wire? I'm pretty sure that as soon as the seal is cut the filter (or what remains thereof) will spin off effortlessly.
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04-18-2012, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Forchetto
...Can't understand why anything else is used...
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Hmmm... this is a tough one...
- Not everone uses Triumph filters
- Some filters installed by others could have been overtightened, accidentally or intentionally
- The 2 HF options previously mentioned will remove any spin-on filter that will fit in the jaws
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07-08-2012, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baltobonneville
The K&N isn't worth its cost for the sake of that little nut on it. I've read stories of the flimsy nut on the K&N being torn off or mangled when the filter was stuck.
If you install the filter properly, you'll not need anything other than your hand to take it off.
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I just today ran into this case with the K&N on my wife's bike. Whichever of us put the filter back on last time must not have oiled the gasket and it was fused tight. The nut on the end of the case rounded badly and the socket just slipped right off it. I wound up getting the filter off with channel lock pliers around what was left of the shape of the nut - the filter finally turned right as I was sure I was going to tear what was left of the nut part of the casing clean off.
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07-08-2012, 05:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baltobonneville
The K&N isn't worth its cost for the sake of that little nut on it. I've read stories of the flimsy nut on the K&N being torn off or mangled when the filter was stuck.
If you install the filter properly, you'll not need anything other than your hand to take it off.
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Exactly.
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11-30-2012, 03:51 PM
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My filter was stuck on when I went to do the first oil change in my garage. Dealer did the first one.
When my strap wrench would not get it off, and the filter began to cave in on one side I stopped trying.
Solution: Treat the situation like any stuck fitting/bolt. Apply PB Blaster or the equivalent to the seam between filter and block, tap it a few times, wait a day and repeat. Several days later, and after taking delivery of the factory oil filter tool, it came right off.
Tool is T 3880313 as noted above by our esteemed colleague.
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11-30-2012, 04:21 PM
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I'm with Forchetto on this I always use Triumph filters and their removal tool. A smear of new oil on the seal before fitting does the trick. I buy a job lot of filters from Sprint Manufacturing at around £8.00 each, they are sealed so will keep for year's.
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12-01-2012, 01:46 AM
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Stubborn removal!
This is my version of the triumph removal tool. Nut is cut very thin on inside of old cut down filter. A tight push fit.
This is probably the easiest and cheapest to make and will budge even the tightest filter. Just an of cut of strapping as used in timber framing and a pair of small vice grips (space requirements). The other straps are for a tractor and a small jap car. The one with the handle is what the idea is based on. There is not a lot of space but if clamped up tight a couple of small bites will loosen for hand removal.
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12-01-2012, 12:58 PM
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The Triumph tool is just a standard oil filter tool, any filter that will fit will work with the wrench, and you don't need a Triumph brand tool to work on OEM filters. I bought mine at PEP Boys. Cheap. But I use OEM filters every time; why cheap out on an inexpensive part you don't need very often anyway?
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12-02-2012, 09:43 AM
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see above. But I am not sure that the tool is 'standard'. compared to others I have seen the filter fits deeper into the tool. Has a nice insert for your drive as well.
Cheap tools are just that, but if works for you.
YMMV
Last edited by Rose Lane; 12-02-2012 at 09:46 AM.
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