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Twins Technical Talk Technical Talk for Hinckley Triumph Twins: Bonneville, T100, Speedmaster, America, Thruxton, and Scrambler.

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Old 06-08-2011, 10:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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installing slip-on mufflers - is high-temp gasket sealant necessary?

I noticed that the Dealer used some sort of white coloured gasket sealant when they installed my BC cocktail shaker mufflers on my speedmaster when I bought the bike new....

I have since taken the mufflers off myself and am in the process of re-installing them - is high-temp gasket sealant really necessary?? If so, what kind? The only one I could find at my local auto parts store was Permatex high-temp RTV RED gasket sealant....

Thanks for any advice. FWIW I've installed many exhausts on many different bikes over the years and never heard of or used gasket sealant before.

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The dealer probably used a hi heat silicone material. The permatex Hi heat copper colored material is what I used to seal up a set of Feked mufflers. Make sure you give what ever sealer you use time to cure before running it, or you may blow the sealer out of the joint, allowing black soot to collect at te joint. tomp
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You are good to go with the red Permatex. Use it and let it cure overnight. There are lots of opinions here to the contrary about the necessity for it, but I say better to use it than put it all together and find that you have a leak.
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Triumph specify a precise 4 cc of normal clear silicone sealant on each pipe-silencer joint.
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Triumph specify a precise 4 cc of normal clear silicone sealant on each pipe-silencer joint.
Thanks Forchetto.... I might as well do it just to be sure
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You are good to go with the red Permatex. Use it and let it cure overnight. There are lots of opinions here to the contrary about the necessity for it, but I say better to use it than put it all together and find that you have a leak.
Hi, as well as the RED Permatex, I also found the Permatex "Ultra Copper RTV sealant" now I am confused as to which one to use??
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Since I have had the bike I have taken the silencers off half a dozen times. No sealant, no leaks. Mine seem to be a very good fit on the headers.
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My cheap reverse cone shorties leaked like a sieve before I added a sealant. The BC pipes that you have are no doubt much higher quality, so it may not be an issue, but it couldn't hurt to run a small bead of high temp sealant in there.
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My cheap reverse cone shorties leaked like a sieve before I added a sealant. The BC pipes that you have are no doubt much higher quality, so it may not be an issue, but it couldn't hurt to run a small bead of high temp sealant in there.
This might sound like a really dumb question, but exactly how do you apply the stuff??? Do you just run a bead around the end of the header pipe before you slip the muffler on? Or do you slip the muffler on first and then apply the sealant at the join?
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just run a thick bead around the header pipe, then use your finger to smear it to about 1 to 1 1/2 inches wide. You don't need so much that when you put the muffler on it oozes out all over the place. Just wipe it off your hand with a rag as soon as you are done smearing and it will come off easily.
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