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12-28-2012, 04:55 AM
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#141 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 4all2pin
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That might work, and it's not just a filter as it has an adjustable airflow facility that could be set to retain a small air flow to ventilate the system and avoid that condensation problem.
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12-28-2012, 10:01 AM
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Just bought this on Ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3805339230...84.m1439.l2649 with the intention of cutting off the brass fitting and inserting the "Sintered Bronze" element into the AI tube. I am however concerned that cutting the element may compromise its structural integrity and it could fragment where it was cut and the particals fall back into the clean side of the air box and migrate into the induction with disastrous results. Any thoughts.
Geoff.
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12-29-2012, 01:49 AM
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#143 (permalink)
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yes take AI off and don't look back.
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12-29-2012, 08:30 PM
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Today was a great day! A member reached out to me to trade a brand new BC kit for my carbed America for a luggage rack I had laying around. Sweet! I ordered the AI removal kit, so as soon as it warms up here in MN (currently 7°F with windchill -7°F) I will knock it out. And so it begins...
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01-05-2013, 01:11 PM
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#145 (permalink)
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After much deliberation I inhibited the AI buy using the bottom 1/2 inch of a "Blood Collection Tube". I used this as other methods that I had considered somewhat worried me due to the air tapping being "Downstream" of the air filter. I cut of the bottom 1/2 inch of the tube, flushed out the Anticoagulant (Lithium Heparin) and pierced a small hole in the domed bottom. Fitted in the horizontal section of the feed tube and secured with an upstream and downstream tie wrap. Did 200 miles today, smooth transition from a closed throttle, no popping on the overrun and no sign of pipe bluing.
Geoff.
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01-09-2013, 02:24 PM
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Guys i've been reading this full thread with interest. I do intend to try this out but i was wondering if the following would work. It seems the trick is now to block the airflow but leave enough to stop condensation. How much do you need to block the airflow by? Could you get enough of an effect by using a number of cable ties to nip a section of the pipe closed just enough to reduce the air flow. Im thinking three or more ties over say an inch of pipe just to constrict the pipe enough to get the positive effects while leaving enough internal diameter left to allow condensation to drain.
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01-09-2013, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
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It seems the trick is now to block the airflow but leave enough to stop condensation. How much do you need to block the airflow by?
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If you can get hold of those temporary hose clamps they can be used to adjust just how much flow there's left on the air supply hose.
There are several types, one of these BERGEN clamps would do it, although the cable tie way is simple and cheap and would probably work fine:
http://www.esellit.com/bergen-tools-...14-p-2340.html
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01-09-2013, 04:05 PM
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Those clamps would also take some hiding. I was thinking with the cable ties I wouldn't even need to pop the hose out of the air box. Just put the cable ties around the pipe before it passes through the side cover. It would be interesting to see how little restriction is required to reap the rewards.
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01-20-2013, 02:19 PM
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I just ordered some of
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Have been waiting a week for them to arrive so I may drive to the hardware store and pick up a cheap alternative. I got my preds about two weeks ago. At first the pops were a welcomed surprise after the stock pipes but I engine break frequently and it can be extremely nerve wrecking when trying to slow down for a traffic light or a sudden car lane change.
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01-30-2013, 11:15 AM
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Meh. I didn't realize this until now but these were coming from China and I blindly chose ground shipping. I was wondering what was up when after two weeks they still had not yet arrived.
Anyhow I am impatient and it seems like a solution should be cheap enough. The blood vial idea is a good one but those are not easily had and ordering them online means buying in bulk. Anyone else have any good ideas that can be had from a hardware store? Something that lets just a little air through? I'm thinking of hitting up the hardware store on the way home today.
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