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Twins Technical Talk Technical Talk for Hinckley Triumph Twins: Bonneville, T100, Speedmaster, America, Thruxton, and Scrambler.

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Old 07-17-2012, 04:55 PM   #111 (permalink)
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A red wire nut fits nicely in the hose too, if you've misplaced your marbles.

Edit: Someone beat me to it! I do second the motion however...
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:49 PM   #112 (permalink)
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On my 09 speeedmaster I have just done the marble and zip ties on the airbox pipe , then the 20min tune, after 20min tune I shutdown engine and restarted next day. At first it would not idle and after a 15klm ride I still had to increase idle myself , then went for a 25klm ride , throttle snatch is 90% gone (still slightly there).

next day left for a short 1200+klm ride over 4 days, all on open country roads, 95% of ride was at 120kph and maybe burst of 145+ over 300ks between towns and refueling . I never used 91 and have always use 95grade fuel.

Now home and checked all my fuel dockets and speedo trip meter details (I wrote down).
I am NOW getting after AI removed/blocked "67miles per gallon" or "4.2ltrs per 100klm" , that is at speed, open country road with rise and fall between 65 to 280 metres above sea level.

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Old 11-14-2012, 11:00 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Considerably lower exhaust system temperature. Much less blueing of the pipes.

Easier access to the spark plugs.

Reduced or eliminated popping back or backfiring noises from the silencer on deceleration.

Reduced clutter on top of the cylinder head.

On EFI models a softer more gradual feeling to opening/closing the throttle. Less throttle snatch.
sorry to quote such an old post, but this is what is going to make me get rid of my air injection.

i have a 2013 bonneville (mag wheels) if i leave the solenoid plugged in, there is no check engine light, do i just blank off the vacuum ports on the solenoid? trying to avoid the dealer charges of a re tune, until i get a set of pipes.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:26 AM   #114 (permalink)
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If its a 2013 it will be under warranty , so best would be to use the marble in the pipe from airbox till after warranty is over, then you can quickly pull marble out if needed to.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:40 AM   #115 (permalink)
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Here's another free one.

Find one of these in your landlord's toolbox.
It's one of those thingamajigs that you plug open live wires with.
Medium sized. Fits perfectly snug in the hose, past the ribbed part, right up to the angle, so it won't go anywhere. The plug the hose back in.
Just for peace of mind, I'll put a zip tie around its widest part, although it is really snug inside.

Only did a quick lap around the block but man, what a difference!
I ride a 2010 Scrambler with an Arrow pipe and I used to get major popping on decel.
The throttle feels smoother on acceleration, the mid range has lost a bit of the machine gun bark, keeping the nice deep tones and zero popping on deceleration.

Thanks guys! Awesome idea!

Copied your idea about the black thingamajig, it fit snugly in the hose. Went for a quick ride around the neighborhood, definately an improvement, no change to idle.

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Old 11-15-2012, 04:03 PM   #116 (permalink)
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If its a 2013 it will be under warranty , so best would be to use the marble in the pipe from airbox till after warranty is over, then you can quickly pull marble out if needed to.
hadnt really thought about that, i guess i'll turn a stopper up in the lathe and put it in the end of the hose.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:11 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Thanks solved a problem that's been driving me mad since I got my 2006 Speedmaster 5 months ago.
Just had to remove the fake air filter cover and pull out the tube. I duc tapped it with out blocking it with anything else then replaced it into the air box.
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Thanks solved a problem that's been driving me mad since I got my 2006 Speedmaster 5 months ago.
Just had to remove the fake air filter cover and pull out the tube. I duc tapped it with out blocking it with anything else then replaced it into the air box.
I'd be a bit concerned with that arrangement in the long term. Duct tape does degrade eventually, and that hole is on the clean side of your air filter, so any little flakes from it breaking down will get sucked into your carbs/throttle bodies. It probably wouldn't cause any problems, but if it were my bike, I'd go with a solid object rather than tape.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:57 AM   #119 (permalink)
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Previous I plugged my AI hose, but a response from this forum recommended not plugging it as water can condense in the pipe and cause problems. So still wanting to alleviate the exhaust popping especially with Predator pipes, I pushed a pneumatic valve silencer up the tube. 1 - it got rid of the popping. 2 - it restricts any airflow. 3 - water won't condense as there is some airflow. 3 - pipe blueing is reduced. 4 - I still have some emission control to satisfy my greenie daughter!
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Old 12-15-2012, 07:02 AM   #120 (permalink)
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I pushed a pneumatic valve silencer up the tube.
What a good idea...one of these? if it's in the photo, can you confirm what type you've used?:

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