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Forchetto · 09-15-2011, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinder

So my question is can you explain how I can test the igniter?
Regards,
Grinder

I have tried to raise this point a couple of times without results. I don't have an igniter in my EFI bike so can't help much there, but we know the pin-out of the unit thanks to this document from TriumphTwinPower:

http://www.triumphtwinpower.com/triu...niter-info.php

I'm sure Mike (Pieman) at TTP does have some sort of rig that can verify the igniters, after all he has been dealing with them for years.

PieMan · 09-15-2011, 04:38 AM

The best test for most people is still the swap out with a known good igniter unit. I can test them with software on the bike, but over the years this has proven not to be totally reliable as many individual components can die which my testing can't detect.

Igniters as with many electronic items either die in the first month of use or go on for many years without problems, although the 270° items do tend to have a shorter life expectancy than the 360° units.

Grinder · 09-17-2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PieMan

The best test for most people is still the swap out with a known good igniter unit. I can test them with software on the bike, but over the years this has proven not to be totally reliable as many individual components can die which my testing can't detect.

Igniters as with many electronic items either die in the first month of use or go on for many years without problems, although the 270° items do tend to have a shorter life expectancy than the 360° units.

Spoke with you on the phone the other morning Pieman and have ordered a replacement igniter with mapping to suit my 904 TPUSA BBK, 813 Grind Cam and FCR 39 Flat slides. Thanks for your assistance. I have a older Procom Igniter fitted on the bike can you remap these Mike?
Brad from Australia

drooby · 06-04-2012, 12:18 PM

Hi there folks,
I know i'm reawakening an older thread here. I have now had a problem with my 2004 America for a few months now cutting out but getting alot worse. On an older post someone mentioned could be pick up coil. Managed to get it tested today finally initial reading was 567 ohms. When i started her up and got her warm cut out problem starts and reading was up to 757ohms which I'm presuming is very high reading showing that there is indeed a problem there (hopefully).
Anyone confirm this?

Cheers

D

Bron-Yr-Aur · 06-04-2012, 01:01 PM

I performed the boiling water test on mine. It went all the way up to 770 and still rising when I took it out. On a brief interchange with Forchetto, I came to understand that it's only a problem when it's an all-or-nothing scenario (open or closed circuit, not quite sure of all the semantics). So I made a gasket and put it back in the bike. Turns out he, as usual, was right. My intermittent cutting out and leaving me for dead problem was the igniter. Now with my old pickup sensor and new Procom programmable unit, she screams like a banshee once again. I didn't need the new nology coil (even though the old only read 2.1 kohms) but hey, now I have a spare for long trips

drooby · 06-04-2012, 02:18 PM

Oh oh! Was hoping for defo the pick up coil!!!
As the finances are bit strapped at the moment do you think its still worth trying the coil?
Cost of a unit is around £400 i think

Bron-Yr-Aur · 06-04-2012, 03:16 PM

From what I've read the aftermarket coil and igniter would both be an improvement over stock (I could be wrong, but that's my understanding) and considerably less than stock. If you're modding your bike, the Procom is almost a no-brainer. I can't wait to start playing with tuning mine. My nology coil was $76 US shipped to my door. The igniter was had through eBay brand new in package for $230 US shipped to my door. YMMV

Unfortunately, as Pieman stated, the let's-try-this-one backyard mechanic approach seems to be the only way of knowing. Unfortunately Triumphs are very rare around here, so I had to just purchase new and hope for the best.

drooby · 06-18-2012, 09:10 AM

Well put new pick-coil on and still no joy! Gutted Is there anyway to test the icu? Don't know anyone with a similar bike around here that i could swap with to see if it ran ok.
I have phoned Triumph in Malaga and they said they could test it, would take 30-50mins and cost €40. I have since spken to a triumph dealer in UK who said that its not really a reliable way to test it. So sure what they mean they said its just a check to see if its set up properly not an actually is it working 100% test

Any thoughts????

*Been having a good read up about the procom unit really like the sound of it seems to get alot of good feedback. Just wish i knew someone else aroung here with a Bonnie that i could test my own unit on... Only issue i have if i go ahead and buy the unit and it proves not the problem then i'm skinty pooed if i need another part!

D

drooby · 07-07-2012, 02:54 PM

Got the Procom unit couple of days ago. Love it! Bike is like new and runs much sweeter than stock...

BrewDudeBob · 08-26-2012, 11:01 AM

Well, My bike is in the shop right now because it wouldn't start. I felt a couple chugs in the engine while riding, and I figured it must have been gas or an air bubble. Didn't think much of it until I went to start it back up and it would turn over, but wouldn't fire.

The shop ran diagnostics and it is the Crank Position Sensor. $79 + labor, and I have to wait on shipping. What a shock. They didn't have one in stock.

Of course it happened on a Friday afternoon, and it is a beautiful weekend, and the wife and kids are all doing their own thing, so here I sit, watching the History Channel, surfin' the forum.

Heavy sigh.