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casida

'Fruition', from Latin 'fruitio', 'frui' meaning 'enjoy', also the the base of the word 'fruit.' As in 'to bear fruit,' it refers to the realization of a project or plan.

But don't take my word for it!

(I miss Reading Rainbow.)

casida

I'm also not just being pedantic. Proof inline. Picked up about 3hp to the wheels from these dealies after I tuned for them. Need to do another dyno run or two, then I should be at about 4-5hp picked up. But the area under the curve looks much nicer down low. This is, of course, my EFI Scrambler though:

beemerrich

Casida - good to hear you're making progress. Make sure you have the baseline dynos for the tuning perfomed to optimize the 'before' conditions...you'll not get far with this crowd if you haven't dialed in the bike before starting the velocity stack dance.

Good luck with your endeavor.

Regards,

--Rich

casida

Yep! My dynos (I've posted this in other threads) came in at 59whp before these guys, and I have lots of documentation, including all the tunes I've written, other changes I've made, et al. =) But I'm not really out to prove much of anything; The documentation is for my own use to help me tune things the way I want.

ShaneDuc

Me? You're the one ready to spend $450.00 on something that doesn't even exist or proven to work. Please spend the $450.00. Heck you ought to give it to him right now. Alot of products like those out there already. What's another one, right?

Bet it never happens. Would you like to wager the $450.00? You'd have way better odds of getting a return.

as in; fruit cake. What the heck are you suppose to be, an Internet proctor? It's obvious, you got the point. Yea, your spending $300-$400 each time you run the bike on a dyno, just to find a couple of horsepower on a stock motor. Yea right, that makes allot of sense!

casida

Edited because you edited your post right as I responded. =)

Just trying to be helpful. Pedantic as it is, understanding what one is saying is extremely important when communicating to others. And using the correct terminology is a good way to make sure ones communications are understood as they are intended.

Also, my dyno runs cost $50 for 2 pulls of 25, 50, 75 and 100% throttle at Evolution Motorsports in San Jose. $400 would be the total cost for the 3 sets of velocity stacks, those silicone couplers, the wide T-bolt clamps, the debris socks, and 5 total dyno sessions so far. Spending 3-400 dollars on a dyno run would be absolutely mad! Apparently you've never had your bike on one if you think it costs that much. =) That, or they take a look at your bike and think you have money to spare! Careful, that's a good way to get taken for a ride, my good fruition cake!

ShaneDuc

Yea ok Eddie. Like I said, you got the point.

Assumption is the mother of all F--- ups Eddie. Your (one) dyno posted, doesn't even provide the bike that was tested, the date or the specific information most every dyno sheet provides, there Eddie.

I'm not dumb or inexperienced enough to believe you're getting anything but a baseline dyno for $60-$70. Any tuning involved, it's allot more. Come to think of it, I didn't know Evolution Motorsports even had a motorcycle dyno. What would a auto performance parts manufacture be doing with a motorcycle dyno?

casida

Sorry, man. =) I can't help but poke fun sometimes. No hate.

steventhechef

Can I play too? Can I play too?

Shaneduc, stop trolling or you'll be called a wanker

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mikeinva

coseng if you want to test them send me a set when you get them done I will give honest feed back good or bad.I would be willing to bet that you will find that even in the same rpm range as stock that my motor will not see the changes in the same rpm range as a stock bike.Because on a stock bike the fcrs will out flow the head .If you find a set up that helps the mid range on a stock bike it will be do to gains in flow vel at mid range .You will not see that on my bike I dont think.You need to read up on what all people are doing to these bikes before you deside what you want to make.These bikes are not like alot of other bikes when going big with mods we dont have to turn high rpms to make big hp numbers.If I was going to shoot for a rpm number to expect max hp it would be around 8500 rpm for both near stock and hot rod motors on these bikes.My bike makes 100hp just below 8000 rpms and goes up alittle from there but most of the work is done in close to the stock rpm range.The power comes on like turning on a switch at anything over 2500 rpm a stock bike with well tuned fcrs comes on later in the rpm range then the big bores do but it has a smaller power band.They are not really the same as far as what they need.By the way forget doing your testing with k&n filters on these bikes they dont flow enough for fcrs on these bikes.What stacks make them flow better wont work the same on the filters alot of us use.

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