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Old 03-21-2010, 10:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bonneville SE Fuel Consumption Running in

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just running my Bonneville SE in and suprised the consumption is high at 34 mpg, hopefully this will improve alot once running is complete. Also the fuel pump screeches as opposed to whirring.
normal? Will get the dealer to check things of course.

impressed so far with the bike and yes the warning lights are rather dim! Solution to fit led bulbs, if so what ones?

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mine went up further into break in on my thruxton...close to 38 to 40 I think but I am not a very "conservative" rider...it is more than my '89 Blazer so I am happy...

my fuel pump screeches some if it is cold outside, otherwise...it whirrs away....
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Don't know much about Bonnevilles, but if my 1050 Tiger was returning 34mpg, It would be going straight back to the dealers to be checked out. I cannot believe that 34mpg is normal, on a mildly tuned, 865cc, 4 stroke twin, even with a new, tight motor.
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just running my Bonneville SE in and suprised the consumption is high at 34 mpg, hopefully this will improve alot once running is complete. Also the fuel pump screeches as opposed to whirring.
normal? Will get the dealer to check things of course.

impressed so far with the bike and yes the warning lights are rather dim! Solution to fit led bulbs, if so what ones?
During running-in I was getting around 45 mpg (UK gallons, 37.5 US gallons), there's something wrong there. Are there any fuel leaks?, I ask because the only time the fuel pump screeches rather than purrs, is when I remove the tank and the hose loses some fuel. On re-assembly the pump has to prime the system and get rid of the air inside the empty hose, making that noise.

It sounds as if your system is either losing some fuel or gaining some air.

LED Idiot lights from newbonneville.com are really good and I have fitted them to great effect.

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[QUOTE=Forchetto;1517907]During running-in I was getting around 45 mpg (UK gallons), there's something wrong there. Are there any fuel leaks?, I ask because the only time the fuel pump screeches rather than purrs, is when I remove the tank and the hose loses some fuel. On re-assembly the pump has to prime the system and get rid of the air inside the empty hose, making that noise.

It sounds as if your system is either losing some fuel or gaining some air.

Thanks everyone

will sort this out with the dealer pronto! then look into getting brighter warning lights too. other than that very happy.

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book just gives general advice on running in etc.
is not over 50 mph acceptable? just want to be kind to the ol gel.

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I get about 29 to 27 miles per gallon on my 04 Thruxton, But I do have a bad case of LEAD HAND!
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There must be something wrong with my Tiger. I'm getting between 50 to 60mpg! Should I take it back to the dealer?
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book just gives general advice on running in etc.
is not over 50 mph acceptable? just want to be kind to the ol gel.
Running-in an engine properly makes all the difference, you can rev it high, but never with full throttle or for prolonged periods, also never lug them up hills, get into a lower gear and keep revs up using low throttle.

The ideal running in regime - You need the revs to free things up and make sure there are no high spots but not loading the engine by giving it too much throttle.

It was always suggested to me that the actual revs are not a problem within reason as long as the load on the engine is not high , so running along on half throttle down hill at near max speed is better than lugging up a hill in top "keeping the revs down" !

Heat build up is the enemy when running in. If you do a long run while running-in, stop once in a while to let things cool down.

There's a school of thought that recommends full throttle occasionally for short bursts during the initial period of running-in. This is to ensure that combustion gasses get well behind the piston rings and force them onto the cylinder. This removes the last of the machining roughness and beds the cylinder and ring in properly.
Failure to do this means that the cylinder walls will glaze over and cylinder pressures and therefore compression will be lost in the future. No real damage, but lower performance.

You can read about the "thrash it from the beginning" philosophy here:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

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