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03-21-2010, 03:38 AM
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Clutch switch removal
I would like to take the clutch switch out of the picture. Do I just bridge the two wires running to the clutch switch?
Thanks,
John
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03-21-2010, 06:35 AM
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Assuming you have a carburetted model, the circuit diagram shows the clutch switch as "normally open", i.e. with the clutch lever released. Pulling the lever closes the switch and enables the starter relay to work.
Based on that I would short the two wires together (Black and Black/red). Wouldn't mind a second opinion though.
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03-21-2010, 06:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Forchetto
Assuming you have a carburetted model, the circuit diagram shows the clutch switch as "normally open", i.e. with the clutch lever released. Pulling the lever closes the switch and enables the starter relay to work.
Based on that I would short the two wires together (Black and Black/red). Wouldn't mind a second opinion though.
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Thank you. It is an EFI, however I would hope that, that would make no difference.
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03-21-2010, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolf Dreaming
Thank you. It is an EFI, however I would hope that, that would make no difference.
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In that case the wire colours are Black and Black/yellow up to the connector inside the headlamp, changing to Black/orange and Black.
The wiring is totally different, in the EFI's diagram the clutch switch is connected to the ECM (terminal A33) and not to the starter relay.
Strange things happen when you mess with the ECM, however, but you can try just shorting it out and see what happens. Try shorting it out temporarily and see what happens and let us know...  I wouldn't mind doing away with it as well.
PM sent.
Last edited by Forchetto; 03-21-2010 at 07:19 AM.
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03-21-2010, 11:11 AM
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Do it at the side stand instead of the clutch lever. Find the side stand switch, follow the wires back to a connector, disconnect that connector. Short the two wires on the harness side together, tape it up, and tuck it out of the way. Remove the side stand switch entirely. Bike thinks the stand is always up, so it doesn't care what the clutch is doing.
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03-21-2010, 09:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reflectedstatic
Do it at the side stand instead of the clutch lever. Find the side stand switch, follow the wires back to a connector, disconnect that connector. Short the two wires on the harness side together, tape it up, and tuck it out of the way. Remove the side stand switch entirely. Bike thinks the stand is always up, so it doesn't care what the clutch is doing.
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Thanks. I may do it that way then.
John
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03-21-2010, 10:00 PM
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It's cleaner to do it at the side stand, because it doesn't involve modifying the harness in any way. The clutch switch becomes redundant, but unless you're tearing the harness apart to get rid of a lot of the excess wire, it's not worth messing with.
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03-22-2010, 02:50 PM
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I'd advise on getting a cheap multi-meter. (I don't know how folks live without them anyway). Disconnect the nearest terminal and ohm across the leads with the sidestand and/or clutch in both positions. Then you'll know for certain whether to short the wires together or leave them open. (Infinite ohms = open switch, zero or near zero ohms is closed switch).
Good luck
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03-22-2010, 04:43 PM
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Agree. You can get digital ones for under $20 in some places nowadays. Some even have additional useful features such as temperature probes, etc.
Some analog ones sell for less than $10 in Dollar shops.
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03-22-2010, 06:20 PM
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Oh crap...I cut the wires to the clutch switch and didn't run them thou the handlebars...I have a 06 speedmaster..Do I join the two wire to together? I also pulled the side stand switch and joined those wires at the main harness. I think I read some where to go to the main plug and join the side stand wires together and ground it out.
"......short the two wires together (Black and Black/red)...."
I don't have the bike back together yet so I don't know if it will start....
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