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03-17-2010, 05:06 PM
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Bonneville A1: Scottoiler 'Lube Tube' placement
First off, I promise that this will be my last Scottoiler question. I swear!!!
I'm wondering if anyone has found a decent spot to utilize this on a standard '09 EFI Bonneville. I'm kinda stymied at finding an appropriate location.
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
-Sparky
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03-17-2010, 05:16 PM
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Im not sure how much the under-seat arrangement differs between Carb'd and EFI bikes, but I have a lube-tube on my Scram.
Its loosely placed in the space directly behind the battery, folded in half.
Has worked fine there for the last 7000 miles.
That reminds me, I must check to see if it needs refilling!
V.
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03-17-2010, 05:18 PM
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Mine is attached to the left hand frame down tube just to the rear of the left side panel.
I just have to glance at it to see if it needs refilling.
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03-17-2010, 05:19 PM
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Lube Toob
Ventura,
I wasn't aware it could be folded in half!
Any chance you'd be able to post a photo? I'd sure appreciate it 
Thanks,
Sparky
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03-17-2010, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparky
Ventura,
I wasn't aware it could be folded in half!
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Just to be clear, you are referring to the sausage-like add on that acts as a secondary resevoir to the Scottoiler?
And not the RMV itself?
If so then the Lube-Tube can be placed anywhere and can adopt any shape that you want it to.
As long as its not overfilled then it can be manipulated into any cubby hole or space there is, no matter its shape.
Mine is folded in half and lays across the bike, just behind the battery, between the seat location lugs.
My RMV is strapped to the right hand frame down-tube, just above the chain.
Easy to see the level there, but with the lube-tube fitted then that is always full.
I think there's a thread on my install somewhere.
Unfortunately Im away from my bikes for another week.
Wouldnt be able to post photo's till then.
V.
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Last edited by Ventura; 03-17-2010 at 05:59 PM.
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03-18-2010, 04:07 PM
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Are you talking about the hook up for the vacuum line to operate the oiler valve?
The FI bikes only have two vacuum ports, one on eaither side of the intake side, if so put a "t" in the line and run the vacuum tube to the "t".
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03-18-2010, 04:29 PM
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look in the stickies
don't tee into the map impulse lines, use the tapping point on the inside of the rhs throttle body, the one nearest the cylinder head.
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03-18-2010, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by larryshep
The FI bikes only have two vacuum ports, one on eaither side of the intake side, if so put a "t" in the line and run the vacuum tube to the "t".
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Don't. Those vacuum ports on top of the inlet manifolds are connected to the two MAP sensors. Anything connected there, or even worse connected together with a "T" piece would muck up the engine management real good.
There are two vacuum take-off points under the throttle bodies.
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03-18-2010, 05:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnyC
don't tee into the map impulse lines, use the tapping point on the inside of the rhs throttle body, the one nearest the cylinder head.
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Johny, I've connected mine to the RH Throttle body vac connector point as you mention (closest to the cyclinder head and quite a pain to get to) on my 09 Scram, and it's provided good consistent chain oiling from my Scottoiler once I adjusted the flow rate correctly.
One point I wanted to raise was that the other day I rode the bike a bit harder than usual (i.e. spending a lot of time around the 5/6K rev range) and I notied that when I got home the oiler had almost completly emptied over about 40 miles and my rear tyre and wheel were absoluetly covered in the blue oil?
Is there a chance that this specific vac connector generates a little too much vacum when the engine is worked hard, whch is why Scottoiler recommend the left hand throttle body vac point, even though it doesen't generate any vac worth talking about below 3K revs?
Confused...
Cheers
Steve
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03-18-2010, 06:00 PM
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look in the stickies!
Steve,
The vacuum drops if you open the throttle more, look at the little video I posted. The most you can pull is what's available in the inlet manifold, where vacuum is at it's strongest on a closing throttle (provided it's tapped into the inlet manifold downstream of the throttle) If you've been dumping oil on your tyre, it's either broken or it's opened up too much. Mine has been working flawlessly for nearly a year now, at about 30% open from fully closed.
ps. here's the link to the thread http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-tech...fi-bonnie.html
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Last edited by johnyC; 03-18-2010 at 06:03 PM.
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