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Old 10-24-2008, 07:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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T100: Carbs vs FI

Does anyone have enough time/miles on an '09 FI T100 with backup experience on the carb version so they can comment on performance, fuel economy, etc?
Sold my '98 T-bird and am (temporarily...it's for sale!) on an '08 brand-H American bike (hear "Ahnold" say "BIG mistake"!). Oh, well, if you don't do something REALLY stupid once in a while, people will begin to expect great things of you! :-)
There are still a few '08 T100's around I could pick up, but I'd like to get a feel for how the FI model is working out before I make "big mistake #2!"
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You won't make a mistake with either one.

Sounds like the folks with EFI are really liking them.
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You won't make a mistake with either one.

Sounds like the folks with EFI are really liking them.
I picked my 2009 efi today, couldn't believe how smooth and responsive it was way different than the carb model i owned did 100km tonight no pipe discolour at all, had an old set of madaz muffs fitted (from my 2007 model)-so older mufflers will fit-with the download.Only put them on so the dealer could do the download for when my others arrive.save me taking it back....
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Lots of differences

You should spend some time carefully comparing an '08 / '09 rather than rely on one pager from Triumph on the spec. There are some fundamental differences - eg the tank is bigger on the '09 (Thrux anyway) and it looks wider, and better. Front guard is plastic, badges are plastic - the list goes on - probably best to go into a dealership and spend 20 mins going from front to tail just looking. Here is a Thrux summary I posted on the Cafe section which you might find interesting. Also waiting to see just how many mpg am getting with stock tune and Hyde pipes - some people seem to have issues with mpg. However it is raining here again, looks like it is set to rain for the next three months at least - hence it might be a while before I get to put more miles on it - currently standing at just 100.

09 Red

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Picked up my new Red 09 Thrux on Saturday after two years of Thruxtonising my Bonnie, which I traded in.

Me - short at 5ft 7". About 155 pounds. Slow and careful ish rider worried about damp roads, manhole covers and diesel, not to mention idiot drivers, my advancing years and fading competence. Having learnt on motorbikes with no mirrors, and cycled for many years without any mirrors either - I am always on radar for the fools on the road.

The bike - Red plus after market Hyde silencers, Hyde gear and brake set, Hyde horn, Ikon chrome shroud rear suspension, Dart screen, Jenks seat and cowl bolts. Also transferred Rentec rack from the bonnie (yes it fits the Thrux and allows one to carry stuff such as mobile phone, waterproofs etc and yes - I know this affects the line of the bike but at 60mph who notices and actually it works well the line is not that badly affected) and ordered Triumph Bonnie after market mirrors and Thrux centre stand (note - bonnie centre stand is NOT compatible with Thrux for those that want to transfer).

Plusses
Pulls really well but still tight given that it is new. Stock tune gives an occasional pop on the exhaust, which I like. Am planning to get it power commandered at about 1000 miles - It looks the business, drawing admiring glances. Sounds great, if a bit quieter than the bonnie which had mototwin exhausts. Tracks a much better line. Love the new handlebars which makes it feel like a high powered bicycle. New rearsets much better as they have a larger footprint on the brake which aids control, and they look much much better than the stock kit. Shocks again are infinitely better than stock - had Ikons on the bonnie so I know they are a world apart. I feel comfortable, much safer than the bonnie, and have the assurance that it will punch on overtaking whilst leaving white van man well behind.

Minuses
There is the occasional blind spot on throttle, and I do not like the sudden loss of power on throttle shutdown, but that is efi, and I will get used to it. Steering lock is tight so maneovering in the garage is a pain. The seat height is an inch too high, which means my feet only just touch the ground. That is not great at stops, and I am considering a lower seat. The bar end mirrors add 4 inches to the width - I have already hit another car on filtering through traffic, hence the move to put standard bars on , which will reduce the width of the bike and add to safe manoevering. There is also a bit of vibration at 65mph, which will be partly resolved by bar end weights after replacing the bar end mirrors with standard bonnie mirrors (the after market chrome ones on Bonnie and America).

Overall
Fabulous bike, well engineered, great engine, different, fast enough, tracks a good line, sounds great, is NOT A DUCATI.

Red Ducatis are ten a penny. Here, even in the UK, Red Thruxes are as rare as the Dandy Dinmont Terrier. If you go against the grain, resist being told what to do by the corporate and political world, detest conformity but love style WITH function, then you are a Thruxtonite.
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Check out the thread I posted about test-riding an EFI Bonneville:
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Cliff notes version: I liked it a lot.

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Old 10-24-2008, 12:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My bottom line: I can work on carbs myself (trial and error sometimes), but I don't know diddley about FI.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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You can work the efi on your own as well. Its way simpler if you understand the basics but I find working on efi far simpler then the trial and error methods of carbs. That being said my Bonnie is carbed but wouldnt hesitate to buy an efi model.
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I picked my 2009 efi today, couldn't believe how smooth and responsive it was way different than the carb model i owned did 100km tonight no pipe discolour at all, had an old set of madaz muffs fitted (from my 2007 model)-so older mufflers will fit-with the download.Only put them on so the dealer could do the download for when my others arrive.save me taking it back....

I wonder if there'll be a market for used blued downpipes? This could be pretty cool...swapping 'em out and get a $100 or so for the trouble!
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I saw a Scrambler this weekend with heavily blued pipes and thought it was one of the purtiest sets of pipes I had ever seen
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EFI v Carbs

I have been riding my new 09 Bonnie for the last two weeks and was very happy with the EFI it seems smoother through the range.

Today I took out my thrux, thats been off the road for 10 days, and realised that the carbs feel little differnt once rolling but the pick up from idle is a lot sharper with the carbs than the EFI.
I didn't notice it going to the EFI, I put it down to higher gearing in 1st or a tight engine but going back to the Thrux the difference is marked.
Just my 2 cents or 3.5 cents Oz

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