Triumphrat

Pokeyjoe

I just got done removing the restrictor plate from my airbox. Since I have a Scrambler, I decided to just take out the airbox to remove the plate. So I removed the seat, the battery, the rear caliper, the rear wheel, the chain guard and the rear fender to get the airbox out.

I spent more time cleaning things up than I did actually working on the bike. The only thing I used the Haynes manual for was looking up torque settings. Too easy.

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Some people are like Slinkies. They're really good for nothing. But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

rmak

Good for you! They are a pleasure to work on and, as the saying goes, make mechanics out of ordinary men.

Next time you do it, try to take the top shock bolt out and pull the top of the shock off after relieving the tension with a bike jack. Then jack the bike up. You will still have to take the rear fender off, but it will save you the trouble of taking off the wheel to remove the airbox.

Gob-ny-geay

That would be a compliment to the Engineers that designed it, and I'm sure they'd like to hear it. Engineer's usually only hear the negative comments, and rarely get the occasional "atta boy". Why not write them a note?.

At any rate, most bikes are pretty easy to work on, especially those like the Bonneville/Scrambler/Thruxton, as they are designed to be basic and simplistic, hence the affordable price-tag.

That's why we love 'em!

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Pokeyjoe

Sort of a back-handed compliment, though, don't you think? I'm sure the airbox is carefully engineered and I've done my best to defeat their efforts.

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John
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Some people are like Slinkies. They're really good for nothing. But they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

ohiorider

Out of all the areas I've worked on, there's a couple of things I wish Triumph had engineered differently:
a) Since it is possible to reach 6 out of 8 valve shims without removing the camshafts, why not move a few pieces around so all 8 valve shims could be accessed without removing the camshafts?
b) Reduce the number of pieces and parts used to space the rear wheel. When replacing it, there's way too many parts that have to align so the rear axle can be passed thru from left side to right side. I find the rear axle adjusters pesky nuisences that could have been eliminated by simply tapping the swingarm for adjustor screws.

Aside from these two items, the bike is relatively easy to service.

Bob

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CAPTDON

Yeah mine has been easy since it has required no work!! They are British & they have NEVER beeen known for simplicity! Ask anyone thats ever had a MG or a Jag!!

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Gob-ny-geay

I understand entirely what you mean, as many have stated what you are saying. But, the airbox was designed with a purpose.
There are many threads here around problems with air intake on windy days (sidewinds, etc.) associated with removing airbox components, so tread very carefully. There are always trade-offs, good and bad, legal and illegal, reliable Vs unreliable for straying from the original design. Usually there is some type of domino effect. Note that I said "Good" sometimes, so let's not over-react.
First we need to comprehend why the airbox is designed the way it is... then we can claim we are better Engineers than the Triumph Staff. Remember that they are working under strict regulations for noise, exhaust emissions, fuel evaporation, etc. Many, many posters in this forum claim to be better designers than the Triumph staff, that said, why not chage careers? Do we really believe the Triumph Staff Engineers are a bunch of know-nothing clowns? A group dedicated to design a bike as poorly as possible? No, they are enthusiasts just like we are, but working under constant, restrictive criteria.
Not trying to start a word-war here, just trying to give design Engineers a little credit, and compare apples to apples. After all, they DID design the "Bike of the Year" for a few years running, and continue to do so. I'm sure many Tiger and Street Triple owners think they know better as well, so it's a lost battle before it starts so to speak.
To have ideas to improve designs is a wonderful thing, and a great pursuit. Stating bluntly that we automatically are better than the designers... not so sure, given the same criteria and restrictions.

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mikeinva

The stock air box is nothing put a cheap power stealing POS .designed to be made cheaply and make our bikes sound and run like a sissy so the tree hugging epa guys are happy.That cross wind stuff is pure BS .How can any of you that still have the air box even tell if its better? Yall dont know what you are talking about.

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rmak

Gob,
Anyone who's ever gotten frustrated trying to get something to work right can attest that design engineers are not infallible.

As you mentioned, manufacturering decisions are driven by many factors. I only have one agenda. Making my bike function like I want it to.

Tinkering, modifying and second guessing how vehicles work is part of a long tradition of hot rodding, racing and sports riding that many of us are proud to be part of. I don't see any of us who are thus inclined stopping anytime soon.

Triumph should be listening to guys like Ohiorider. They would produce a better product.

No word war, just my 2 cents on a Sunday morning.

Rich

Gob-ny-geay

Rmak,

I absolutely agree. Obviously I didn't articulate clearly, but in no way did I state that Engineers are infallible, of course not. If I have, please locate my statement and PM back to me, I apologise. What I was trying to state was that they need to work under many restrictions. Of course we can tweak and experiment, that's what it's all about for many. Oddly, some tweakers actually think that anyone who doesn't is inferior. Could be insecurity or low self-esteem. I had thought we were all bikers, tweaked out or not. At any rate, I agree, sorry if I wasn't clear.

mikeinva - ease up on the coffee my friend, I never argue with self-proclaimed experts, it's a waste of time. As many here take the time to respect your opinions and suggestions, you might consider doing the same.

I'm goin' ridin' now, it's a beautiful day here. Cool off.

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