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Old 06-27-2008, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sold my Victory Vegas and yesterday bought an 2008 Silver Bonneville. I know the first thing to do is enjoy the h#ll out of it... but what now? What should I do from a mods perspective before I pass GO and collect 200 bucks?
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Welcome and enjoy

Hope you get to love your bike like we love ours.

Out of interest, since I was interested in the Vegas myself (and got the bonnie) why did you swap bikes?
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The Vegas was a very nice bike. Had it for 2 1/2 years and enjoyed it very much. I had spent a fortune on accessories on it and it was a real looker. I did not own the bike outright (payments) and had a baby. Needed funds for daycare so found someone who appreciated the "Extras" on the bike and gave me a great price. I was able to clear up monthly debt for daycare.... and buy the bonneville. No complaints about the Vegas - but have always loved the look of these "classics". My new bike was born the same year as my son... so now I want a 66 for me!
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Old 06-27-2008, 05:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Pipes, AI removal, air box swap. Those are the usual first mods. Then you just gotta go with what spins your prop. :

If you are on a budget you can do a bafflectomy on the stock pipes.:

My cuz has a Victory and likes it... I guess. haven't been able to get him to go on a ride.:
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Old 06-27-2008, 06:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Suspension. I would do that before anything else.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Sold my Victory Vegas and yesterday bought an 2008 Silver Bonneville. I know the first thing to do is enjoy the h#ll out of it... but what now? What should I do from a mods perspective before I pass GO and collect 200 bucks?
Whatever you are comfortable with - get familiar with the bike and then decide. They are great stock, but a tweak here and there really makes it yours. Don't feel you have to jump on the airbox removal bandwagon just because a bunch of others have done it. If you want to - great, but there's nothing wrong with stock.

I found that by putting a K and N air filter in, adding dynojet kit and TORs (Triumph Off Road pipes) I got a bit of a performance boost and much better throttle response, so that's good enough for me. (I pulled the AI too).

Suspension........yep. I'm going to upgrade mine for sure, so that is certainly something to consider.

But, most importantly, just enjoy yourself doing whatever you want do, and have loadsa fun.

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Old 06-28-2008, 09:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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... but what now? What should I do from a mods perspective before I pass GO and collect 200 bucks?
Prop makes some excellent points. My suggestion would be to first decide what you want the bike to be in the end, and then assemble a balanced plan.

Understandably, if you search the archives you'll find very strong pro's and con's for every mod possible!

My best suggestion would be to consider only those mod's that make total sense, and are scientifically and technically spelled out and explained as to "why".

"I did it, and my bike goes faster, so everyone should do it!", is not exactly scientific.
Ask "Why" 4 or 5 times to get deep down into the story.

Lastly, remember that the bike is probably as reliable and long lasting right now as it will ever get. Modifications often provide more power or top speed, but lessen reliability and longevity factors unless they are very well thought out, and very well planned.

Initial bang for the buck? Air Injection removal, carb balance and jet adjustment, K&N Air intake filter.

Exhaust? Here's one for debate. If you do nothing else, I suggest that different pipes just make more noise. The HP and torque gains are very minimal at anything but redline RPM, or you may move the torque curve and peak down slightly to a lower RPM peak.

Think about it... how much air/fuel do you move in CFM through the system during normal acceleration and shifting rpm peaks. Is it that the stock exhaust is so restrictive that it won't allow CFM passage at these levels? No, it's fine.

Straight pipes and such are better justified for drag and full race bikes, where top rpm, and subsequent higher CFM passage is required. In other words, rev it up to redline and drop the clutch!

For normal driving, until you really get to a higher cam profile and oversize valves and carbs, hence much more CFM passage requirement, the stock pipes are sufficient. I would change my viewpoints if someone could show me a Dynanometer graph comparison showing the precise difference with no other mods. My prediction would be 1 to 2 HP gain at redline RPM. This is shown clearly in most aftermarket pipe adverts, but cleverly worded as "HUGE HORSEPOWER GAINS! It all in the sales presentation.

Now, on the other hand, if you want to hear more exhaust noise, go for it! Agreed, the stock offeroing is overly quiet, but some like it that way. You decide.

Point is: Do much research and planning, and have a realistic goal in mind from the onset. If you read the archives you'll see the yin/yang effect of not doing a balanced attack.

If in the end what you really want is a 200 HP, screamin', thumpin' tire-burnin', fire-breathin' Beast! Maybe you should save a lot of cash and effort and buy a different bike? (Hyabusa?)Just kidding, we want you as a Triumph guy!

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Old 06-28-2008, 11:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I want to thank you guys for all the feedback, it is very informative and helpful. I am glad to be part of this community. One thing I notice immediately, is everyone in the Victory community thought they were THE ONLY motorcycle community - and all else (especially HDs, Japanese, and of course European bikes) were all second class citizens. I never appreciated the mentality and certainly stayed away from it personally. However from reading the posts on this site it seems there is little pompous exaltations. I like that. This site seems to be made up of riders who like to ride.... and who are very pleased to ride their Triumphs. Glad to find a home.
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I think you've got good reason to get a 66 sometime!

good luck with your bike.
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