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Old 02-13-2008   #11 (permalink)
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See if a search will turn up the Bonnie set up by Orpheus for adventure touring. He's got a big fuel tank and all sorts of great modifications. Has taken that thing all over the place too.
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See if a search will turn up the Bonnie set up by Orpheus for adventure touring. He's got a big fuel tank and all sorts of great modifications. Has taken that thing all over the place too.
Yeah he has some info over at advrider.com about his setup. I had a couple of PM's back and forth with him before I got my Bonnie.
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That is a nice setup, but the fuel tank is a bit rich for my blood..
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RedBird that is a sweet looking ride. What pipes do you have on it, are they stock? Noticed since I they look to be powder coated black.
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I've made a bunch of mods, but I'm not quite finished yet. There's still suspension work to be done. But if you're just doing summer road touring, I'll stick to the things I think will be of the best benefit to you.

First, you should get a good feel for your comfort on the bike over long periods of time. Are your arms cramped? Back hurt? Knees feeling some strain? Take one day to make a 450+ mile trip and you'll start to see where you and the bike are not fitting. If you feel that your legs are cramped, there are two solutions: 1) get a thicker seat -- the stocker is quite low compared to some of the other Triumph or aftermarket options (I have the solo seat + rack) 2) get a peg lowering kit. If you want something relatively minor, try the Vario footpeg set (25mm/1" drop). If you need something more extreme, I highly recommend modre's peg lowering kit (2" drop).



Also, consider bar risers or a different pair of handlebars if you are having arm/back problems. It's really quite cheap and relatively easy to swap them out. Just make sure to coordinate with your wind protection choice, as you can put yourself back up into "dirty" air before you know it.

You will almost assuredly need some form of wind protection. You can go big and effective with something like the Parabellum, or you can stick with something smaller. I used to have a Parabellum, but I couldn't take the look after a while. I now use an MRA Roadshield, which does a good job at keeping the wind off of my chest but isn't as effective as the giants. It saves a lot of fatigue, which is what matters most.



I would also suggest investing in a throttle rocker and bar end weights of some sort. I'm a cheap bastard at times (despite how much I've spend on the bike!), so I filled the ends of my grips with washers. You may have better results with "real" bar end weights.

Okay, so that's the (relatively) cheap stuff. If you are comfortable, you can ride longer and more safely. If you have not upgraded your suspension, you may also wish to do that. It may be expensive, but it makes the bike much more tolerable (and safer) over a long period of riding.

If you are looking for luggage options, you have options ranging from "kinda" expensive to very expensive. RedBird has a nice soft luggage setup. Between the tank bag, seat bag, a panniers, you can hold a lot of stuff. If you're looking for something tougher and waterproof, check out Wolfman Luggage's Expedition rear bags (they also make tank bags and soft panniers). It's the yellow bag in the picture below. That one is the "small", which holds my tent, sleeping bag, bivy sack, sleeping bag mat, compression pillow, jacket/pants liners, and accessory outlet cables. That is, it holds a LOT, and it's totally waterproof, very tough. I'm securing to the bike like an idiot here; it actually secures to the bike with very nice straps. Ortlieb also makes great, tough dry bags.



If you want to have even tougher luggage, you have to go with a hard luggage option. There are a few options through companies like Norman Hyde (they have a Givi-based rack), but I'm a big fan of my Hepco & Becker setup, which you can buy through newbonneville.com, twistedthrottle.com, and other sites. You can fit any Hepco & Becker standard luggage to the rack, so if my Junior cases look unappealing to you, you could put on Gobi or Strayker cases (the Straykers in particular have a nice style, though they are only 23L per case). My cases are totally waterproof and tough as hell. I've been down on the bike three times, with the luggage taking the brunt of the falls. Barely even scratched them, and the frame is still rock solid (okay maybe it's 2mm to the right now, geez).

If you don't have rain gear, you really should get some. It can be a pain in the ass to put on and take off, but when... oh, I don't know, you're riding through tornado weather in Kansas during a torrential downpour and Meade is 150 miles away... you will appreciate it. If you really plan to do a lot of commuting/touring, invest in quality textile touring gear. Many people love Aerostich. I have an Olympia AST jacket with Ranger II pants. The combo works quite well in a nice range of temperatures, though it can be too warm in the summer, even with the liners removed.



As a final option, I would suggest an accessory outlet. The Triumph accessory outlet is pretty inexpensive ($30? I can't remember anymore) but allows you to recharge cell phones/whatever on the road. They take "BMW-style" plugs, which you can find by the truckload at Powerlet's website.

In summary, I would say these are the things you should strongly consider:

* Bar risers/different handlebars (if you need it) - $75 to $100
* Peg lowering kit (if you need it) - ~$50 for modre's
* A different seat (you will almost assuredly need it unless you are a serious iron butt) - $150 to $350+ depending on what you buy and used vs. old
* Some form of wind protection - $90 to $250 (MRA Roadshield to Parabellum LTD)
* Throttle rocker - $10 to $20
* Bar-end weights - $1 for washers to $70 for some nice !!!MANIC Salamanders

Everything else really depends on how nuts you want to go. Hope that helps.
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Orpheus, awesome post! This should be a sticky or somehow immortalized. :
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Orpheus, awesome post! This should be a sticky or somehow immortalized. :
Yeah, that's a huge help. I saw that you're working on a longer travel suspension over at the AVRider forum. That's gonna be sweet when you get it done.

In the last few weeks I've been digging around, and I've come to some of the same conclusions that you listed. I've already got the roadster screen and the single seat w/rack on the bike. I picked up a cheap corbin g&l off ebay (~$150), but it forces me to sit a little too far forward so it likely will be sold off. I like to sit back a bit, and at 6'4", decent leg positioning is kinda "must-have".

I've also got the modre peg kit and handlebar risers waiting for install, and the acc. socket as well. I found the MCResources racks on newbonneville.com and some other inexpensive hard luggage on ebay that should work pretty well, and might even look pretty cool, if I can get the buggers mounted to the racks. The brackets/mountpoints aren't even close, so some fabrication will be required.

I've been riding in a leather jacket and jeans up to this point, so I think I'm gonna use my tax return on a set of riding gear - waterproof riding gear. The only problem I have is that I think most of that stuff is kinda meh, and not built well for a guy my size.

the bar end weights are something that I didn't really think about.. did you just stuff the washers in, or were they screwed down somehow?

My plan is to do a couple overnight rides in april/may, maybe hit eastern wa for a camping trip.. Get a feel for what all works best/is most comfortable and go from there, just as you recommended.

Seriously, thanks for the great post.
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Thanks for the kind remarks...the pipes are stock headers (black ceramic coated), and the silencers are Norman Hyde Togas (black ceramic coated).
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Fantastic post Orpheus! Thank you so much for taking the time to detail everything you've done.

As for bar end weights, I snapped up a used pair of Triumph Trophy units from FleaBay for a song. They work really well for me. I bought M5x60mm (I think that's what I used) SS cap screws from McMaster-Carr to mount them in place of the OEM aluminum bar end caps. They're heavy! I didn't weigh them, but I'm guessing 12-14oz ea.

As much as I like the OEM Triumph accessory fly screen, I may give the MRA Roadshield a try. I certainly like the look. I've been waiting to find the right look & functionality for a good windshield. I don't want a big one, as I've been down that road before on previous bikes and always end up changing them for something smaller. Much appreciated!

Thanks again,
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