Triumphrat

Old Scratcher

Thanks Uzdit that makes it a lot clearer. It's always good to get the inside goss. & I'm glad to hear that my tyre bedding ride is actually a good thing to do. It also explains why not all new tyres have this problem, as if they only apply this gunk every 100 tyres or so, it stands to reason that the first 50 would have more residue than the last 50.

Weasel Pete

I scrub mine down with warm water, dish soap and a scotch-brite pad. Seems to work good. I'm glad that they have some sort of protectant to keep them from rotting on the shelf. Who knows how long it takes to get them from the factory to my bike. I do ride it carefully at first but mostly because when the old one wore down gradually and I was used to them. Then a new set go on and instantly "feel wrong" until I get acclimated. I've only felt one slip from a new tire right after I had my first one changed. It spooked me, but I didn't crash.
I change each one when they're totally worn out because I'm cheap and I want every last mile out of my $130+ pieces of rubber. Sometimes I'll ride them off the bike or at least until they're sparking from the steel belts running against the road. It's usually 1 1/2 rears for each front but it depends on the bike.

Tbirdnz

I take that is tongue-in-cheek comment Pete, and that you're not advocating running tyres down to their steel belts !

Positively dangerous to yourself and others.

I agree with the wear and tear between front and rears, mine is about the same.

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joerockhead

If you wish to base your argument on a legal "duty-of-care...from the moment it's fitted to your bike", please demonstrate why tire manufacturers have such a duty. Comparisons to other "duties-of-care" are acceptable, but any explanation that falls back on vagaries such as "common sense" will be dismissed as BS.

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PfM

Sorry Scratch - I am on the other side here.
Riding puts us apart from all of the other tossers that get in their cages and expect everything to be laid out for them on a plate "because they paid good money for it".
Motorcycling means getting wet, covered in insects, dealing with diesel spills and wearing our tyres in.

I revel in this extra effort because it sets me apart.


...however, one shop in Brisbane used to buff the tyres when they fitted them. Dunno if it helped. Don't care.

MES

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If you feel the product is unsafe then don't buy it. There, your problem is solved.

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The tires are completely safe when fitted. You just can't go tearing around on them.
It's not that they are unsafe, it is that they get better when worn in.

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Old Scratcher

I can't comment on OS jurisdictions, & I was hoping not to get drawn into a legal argument, so I hope I'm not about to bore everyone silly. But in this country duty-of-care, as it relates to motor vehicles, is clearly defined under the Trade Practices Act, & basically states that companies have an obligation to ensure that any of their products that are fitted to a vehicle, not only comply with all current ADR's, but are also as safe to use on the road as the company can make them (I'm paraphrasing obviously), It's deiberatly broad in it's definition, to try & cover anything the ADR's don't.
As I've already said, experienced riders know all about this issue & have long ago come up with a remedy they're happy with (me included). So I can understand rider's being a bit defensive about it, because it's become part of the "secret knowledge" that sets us apart from the cagers. But this is hardly in the same league as kickstarting a big single or clearing flooded carby's. This is, potentially, very dangerous. & it's the newbie's who are most at risk. Who we, as experienced riders, should be doing everything we can to welcome into the fold. They are the future of motorcycling. & they deserve to be safe!
Sorry about the rant. I think I need a cup of tea now.

Brooksie

I normally ride the bike normal for a couple of hundred miles. The Bonnie loves corners but I just work on the new rubber easy in the corners. I think the compound depends on how long. I lkie "V" rated gummies because they give great grip right off the truck and only get better. Most tires I use get around 4/5 thousand miles before they table top the center and become useless for hard riding. I plan to change them every two years.

PfM

I see your point Scratch.

Most shops cover their duty of care and cover their legal backsides by issuing a warning along the lines of "Now, take it easy on the new tyres...."

I still get it from the guy that I buy 2 sets a year from.


I do remember some years back seeing a guy pick up his freshly tyred bike (GPz500 I think) from Beaumonts, receive the abovementioned warning with a "yeah, yeah", jump on and promptly bin it in front of the Saturday morning crowd when he turned onto the street.

raproe

I enjoy watching road racing, both on the tube and down at Mid-Ohio. Those guys will pull in, put new rubber on, and then go full bore knee dragging with no apparent worries about new tires. I always wince when I see them do it.

If they do something to the tires and the tire manufacturers can do the same for a marketable cost, that may be the answer. Or maybe the racers are "taking it easy" for a lap or two but it just doesn't look like it to a mere mortal.

Rich

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