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Old 06-03-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Glad to be back. Sue and I toured S. KY, N. VA and some of S. WVA, the general area known as the Cumberlands. (1300 miles total) Very pretty country, especially in that little tip of far western VA between KY and NC.

We left Ohio on Thur., the 24th, and by Sat. of Memorial Day weekend found ourselves at a McD's in Pennington Gap, VA for lunch. Always picking a seat where we can watch the bikes I noticed that the rear tire on the Bonnie looked decidedly low. It wasn't. It was dead flat.

There were NO bike shops in town and we started calling around to neighboring towns, talking to people, and, after dozens of calls the best we could do was a Triumph dealer (also Kaw, Honda & Suzi) in Kingsport TN, 45 miles away who said they would pick up the bike the following Tuesday. There was one motel in town, behind the McD's and they had one room left.

Since Sue's bike was fine we were able to do some local exploring for those two and 1/2 days, but it was largely a boring and LOOONGGGG time. I did manage to reread all of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. I needed all the Zen I could get. I am not a patient person by nature!

By Tuesday at 1:30 they were working on the bike and by 3:30 it was done. They weren't wrapped and were constantly being interrupted. We paid and moved on to Abingdon, Va where I noticed that the new tube had lost 10#s overnight. Filled up Wed am and pressed on to Charleston, WVA, having to fill it a couple of time along the way.

By the time we got to Charleston it was down to only a few pounds pressure. The leak was getting worse. I filled it up to 47#s and started clocking it. It lose 25 lbs in an hour. And was dead flat the next morning. I found a Suzi dealer who had a tube about 10 miles away, got directions, borrowed a compressed air tank from a Polaris dealer across the street from the motel and Sue and I headed for the Suzi dealer like bats out of h*ll and made it. They put in another new tube and showed me how the Triumph dealer had failed to inflate the tube before re-rimming the tire on the wheel, and had therefore inflated it folded!. It had rubbed two holes in the tube with several others ready to break through!

It was after 1:30 pm when we got the bikes back to the motel, got everything packed on and we decided we'd had enough "fun" - plus I was really fried about the incompetence of the Triumph dealer - and we headed home by interstate, arriving home about 6PM - about 200 miles, including stops to put on rain gear and take it off, riding through a heavy downpour, etc.

One thing about this trip is that we are not likely to confuse it with any other.

An ironic note: when the tire went flat it was 100 feet from the only motel within 40 miles. Guess what the name of the motel was: The Convenient Inn. It really was.

Monte and Sue

PS: Am getting a new rear tire next week. The old one still has some tread, but you can see the wear marks coming close, it has 9100 miles on it and I do not know how many miles I rode it at very low inflation. The dealer in Charleston said it looked fine on the inside, but it had major stress and I don't want to push my luck.
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It's pathetic isn't it? It's been quite a few years since i realized that w/o exaggeration you literally cannot have work done on any car or bike and expect it to be done right more than maybe 2 out of 3 times. But then i guess thats true of any type of service today. thats why i do my own work. I may screw up here and there, but less so than the "professionals" . I'm scared to have them do most anything to my bike. At least if i screw up i know it on the spot. When they do i may not know it till i'm sliding along the pavement at 60 MPH ! Too many places won't pay well enough for quality mechanics, and this is the result. In the end it's really OUR fault. the consumer chooses the level of competence of the mechanic by how much he's willing to spend. Thats is usually little enough to create stiff competition that results in homer simpson caliber mechanics. you can always tell the service departments to stay away from. Stand near them for a few minutes and if you hear "doh!" a few times, find another dealer. :-D
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Sorry to hear it Monte. Sounds like you persevered and overcame!
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Monte, it may not of been the best trip but it was still
a "life" adventure. Sorry about your misfortune but this
should only mean the next trip for Sue and you should be exceptional.

I love spokes but hate tubes.
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Quote:

I love spokes but hate tubes.
Geez, truer words were never spoken! (no pun intended).

I can't wait to fit my mags.
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Sorry for your grief Monte, mag wheels are the future :-D
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Monte - sorry to hear about your problem, but happy to hear some good follks from my home town in WV were able to get you fixed properly and back on the road. Hope you and Sue got in some good riding before all the problems began.

Here's the BMW solution on their GS-style bikes .... the Akront cross-spoke system. Fairly complex lacing pattern, nearly impossible for average joe to relace, but it does permit running tubeless tires on a spoked rim, since the spoke nipples attach outside the tire bead. Also permits replacement of broken spoke without removing the tire, in an emergency, though I've not broken a spoke in over 100K miles. Tubeless design permits temporary plugging to get you to a dealer ...bike came with plugs and CO2 cartridges.

Also note the four lug bolt holes on rear wheel. Easy to remove and reinstall, since the swingarm is single-sided.

Pic of BMW (Akront) Rear Rim

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PS - See you Sat at Mathias BMW for the Packless Rats Ride. I'll post a final announcement onto the Rides site by Wed of this week, and will post a go/no-go based on weather forecast no later than Fri evening. Will contact you first for concurrence.
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i dont see where spokes where the cause of the flat and tubes will seal where tube less wont. One thing is for sure a hole from a nail or something on any tire with air = a flat.
I guess im just old school but spoke wheels look more like a bike should look mags are for cars.Sorry you had the bad luck on your trip glad no one was hurt .
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Thanks for all the comments, guys; and Bob: Sue and I are looking forward to next Saturday. Will stay in touch.

Mike: I think the point is that both tube type and tubeless tires will go flat when punctured. The point is that you can make a temporary repair on a tubeless tire by identifying the source of the leak and inserting a temporary plug in the tire from the outside, then fill up the tire with canned air or CO2, and make it to a spot where you can get another tire, or possibly, (I wouldn't) repair the tire with a plug and seal from the inside.

With a tubeless tire you have no option but to remove the wheel, break the bead on the tire, repair the tube, reverse the process and add air and proceed. I don't carry on the bike all the tools necessary to do that; and most other riders don't either; and even if I did I would prefer not to do that if I could possibly avoid it.

Tubeless tires give you a major far more hassle free option to get you back on the road quickly. In my particular case I could easily identify the hole where the air was coming out, but could not repair the tube without taking it out of the tire.

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Hey Monte! That's Deb's (badrufus' ) dealer. Wonder if she'll read this? I wonder if that's typical for them or if something else was going on.

I walked in there once, and was TOTALLY ignored. At that time, I would've bought the boots if someone had even vaguely tried to sell me something.

(ps next time you're stuck in the woods, come visit Trumpet Cottage! )
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