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05-28-2006
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SuperSport
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Was having a discussion on another forum about the two bikes and the consensus seemed to be that the Vstrom 650 would feel like it had more power than standard bonnie and most likely the T100 as well.
Anyone here ever ride a wee strom?
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05-28-2006
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SuperStock
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kirkland Washington
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haven't been on one but I'd guess that it would have a little more umph. I've seen where the DL650 (tuned for torque) makes 70 hp at the crank (which is 4 less than their SV650.) Triumph claims 66 for the T100. Suzuki says the DL650 is 417 lbs. dry. The T100 is 451 lbs.
The Suzuki got the ugly stick don't you think? I guess it's all right if you buy all your clothes at REI.
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05-28-2006
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Formula Extreme Favorite Bike: '06 Scrambler
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Maine
Posts: 675 Other Motorcycle: '07 F650 GS
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I traded a Weestrom as they are affectionally known for my Scrambler. There is no question the Suzuki had more pop than a stock Scrambler (not sure how that translates to a Bonnie). However, the motor is very peaky and under normal conditions a lot more shifting is required to have access to the power. The motor is also more buzzy, not nearly as smooth as the Scrambler. Over all I much prefer the Scrambler for what I was/am using the bike for as a daily commuter through a mix of back roads and city streets.
If I need power, have to carry stuff, or am on a very long ride I opt for the Tiger which does everything the strom did only significantly better.
Fred
PS (edited in): The one thing the strom does better than either Triumph is that it got 25% better gas mileage (50 vs. 40 miles per US gallon).
[ This message was edited by: pigpen955 on 2006-05-28 14:49 ]
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05-28-2006
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I have a VStrom 650 - it has a very powerful, sweet motor - runs 0-60 in 3.7 seconds, has effortless passing power and long legs - a very nice mill. I get 56 mpg on 87 octane, too.
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05-29-2006
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Team Owner Favorite Bike: 2003 T100
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Hudson, Ohio - USA
Posts: 3,778 Other Motorcycle: 1991 BMW R100GS Extra Motorcycle: No more at present time
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My riding buddy just purchased a VStrom 650. Big chassis. It appears to be about the same size as the 1000cc version. With $3 a gallon gasoline, the fact that he's getting over 55mpg on a machine that's not yet broken in makes this a very appealing bike for someone who plans several long trips each year.
My old BMW R100GS, made in the day when you didn't think twice about a fill-up, pulls approx 40 mpg running the Interstate.
AT $3 bucks a gallon, the VStrom 650 could make a 4000 mile trip on $215 worth of gas, my old GS would require $300 worth.
I'd love to see Suzuki do the VStrom in a version with lots more tubular frame showing, and lots less plastic.
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05-29-2006
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Powerbike
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Campbell, CA
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I haven't ridden a V-Strom, but I've got a 2001 SV (the unfaired version). The SV is just as smooth as my '05 T100, maybe a slight bit smoother. It's also noticeably more powerful. The SV has a great engine (I haven't ridden one of the newer fuel injected ones), and with upgraded suspension, a better seat, and a good-sounding pipe it's what I have referred to as "a keeper". The handling is great - it's an all-around good bike.
But it's not a British twin...
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05-29-2006
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Formula Extreme
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Goodyear,AZ
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The engines sound powerful enough. Too bad they are in such an ugly package. I noticed on Japanese non-cruiser bikes that the pipes are no longer considered an aesthetic item. Funky bends and welds are not very appealing.
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05-29-2006
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Formula Extreme Favorite Bike: 02 Bonneville
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: norway
Posts: 557 Other Motorcycle: 05 SV650S
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I got a 05 SV650S last year. Haven't got my newly aquired 02 Bonnie out of storage yet, so I can't comment on the power differences yet. But the Zuk 650 is a sveet mill, with a 11000 redline and some free-flowing pipes, it turns quite some heads :-D
And is fast enough to put me in jail in a few seconds (But then Norway has the highest speeding penalties in the world :evil:  )
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05-30-2006
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#9 (permalink)
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Ivar,
I've been to Norway.
The speeding penalties I noticed have nothing to do with the police - more the 100 foot drop if you get it wrong!
fantastic scenery though.
Ride safe
Roy
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05-30-2006
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#10 (permalink)
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250 Grand Prix
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: broken arrow, ok
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I did not ride the strom, but rode the SV. Very nice! Plenty power, sweet handling. I have sat on a 650 strom, and found that there is no room for the uh, boys. Too swoopy of a rear seat.
Also, the fairing is insect-looking, and could not be readily modded to provide good protection on a long road trip. I realize that's not the bike's intended purpose.
I have long wished that suzuki would put those sweet motors in a retro frame ala Ducati GT or Guzzi V7Sport, with twin shocks, long adjustable clipon swanneck bars, a slab cafe tank and long flat seat. Shaft drive and tubeless tires a bonus. Especially a 1000
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