found the ultimate road for our bike the other day, very bumpy , rough paved 1 lane country road that goes for miles, dual purpose bikes only!! scrambler can do!! :-D
the road is the south mid something just past hells kitchen off 74 ortega, it goes all the way to fallbrook over the tops of the mountains, if you can believe it
slow going --15 mph
real bad place to get a flat but really beautiful
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